AIR - Air NZ.

[RTFQ]

One of the rare times I flew on Jetstar we had a Chinese pilot that in full daylight and perfect clear blue skies and no wind had to fly a go around at the full length Christchurch airport because he couldn't land on the first approach ....I guess he hadn't done the Christchurch approach in his simulator training.[/QUOTE]


A bit harsh, the fact the he erred on the side of safety and went around is to be commended. It could have occurred because, the preceding aircraft was tardy in vacating the runway, birds crossing in front or one of many other environmental hazards that pilots are faced with.

[Beagle]

He blamed ATC for keeping him too high. That gave a high reading on my B.S. meter is all I'm saying. Jantar's point is extremely well made for those that are concerned with safety and like to minimise the possibility of death.

[mikeybycrikey]

A bit harsh, the fact the he erred on the side of safety and went around is to be commended. It could have occurred because, the preceding aircraft was tardy in vacating the runway, birds crossing in front or one of many other environmental hazards that pilots are faced with.

Yep. This. I've never really thought that the view out of my postage stamp sized window on the side of the plane as it tries to land at 250 km/h should really be used to judge the pilot.

My Air NZ pilot had to go-around again on a perfectly fine tropical day in Papeete when I was there are few weeks ago. I'm sure it happens pretty frequently and not just to Chinese Jetstar pilots.

Maybe it's worth looking at this from Airline Ratings: http://www.airlineratings.com/news/6...lines-for-2016
Or even this: http://www.jacdec.de/airline-safety-ranking-2015/

Both of them rank JetStar highly.

[Jantar]

There was a great training video on You Tube relating to flight training, but I see it has been pulled by American Airlines (their copyright). It did highlight the differences in flight training methods, and showed that the basic ability to actually fly an aircraft should be paramount.

My son is a first officer for Qantas, generally flying the Canberra - Brisbane route. But before he even started his professional flight training I had him solo in a glider, and flying around the mountains of the South Island using only a low definition chart and no electronic nav aids. His first airline was a small local one in Darwin where he was flying into small strips in the outback, and no mountains to use as visual references and no ILS systems at any of his destinations. As a result, when he applied for Qantas Link in his flight assessment he was able to manage situations that no simulator trained pilot could do.

[Tony Two Gloves]

Wow! - Some big sellers at $2.92 want out before the Divvy........

[Beagle]

I suppose I should be grateful the flight actually took off and wasn't cancelled due to engineering or staff issues either like so many others have been lately about 1 minute before the final check in time.

[Leftfield]

High times for Cathay Pacific...... bodes well for AIR
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...-travel-demand

[Snow Leopard]

High times for Cathay Pacific...... bodes well for AIR
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...-travel-demand

They have done well given the environment they operate in. It is possible, nay probable, that they will do a little better next year.

This is their actual announcement.

Their annual report is about a month away - I am sure Roger will look forward to reading it when it comes out.

Best Wishes
Paper Tiger

[Hoop]

High times for Cathay Pacific...... bodes well for AIR
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...-travel-demand

Don't wish too hard ..you might get AIR chart to look like CP's

[Leftfield]

Don't wish too hard ..you might get AIR chart to look like CP's

Ouch....!!

However, as Graham and Buffet note, Mr Market is not the only way to measure a companies success, and the market is often out of step with financials.