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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Good mix of cultures, races and gender in there as well as some well known personalities. Be very hard for anyone to be offended by that other than me. I take exception because the dog they used was ugly...should have gone to spec savers and used a Beagle
    Mike and Kate are in it so it must be good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob View Post
    You can all relax now - Julian and the latest safety video have gone.

    Back to this one on my flight this morning...… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEnlEVLyD1s
    Thank god Flying back home again Friday and was nervous I would have to have another flight where I would have absolutely no idea of what to do in an emergency, (Joking not joking) so happy that abysmal excuse for a video is now gone, Maybe the Shareprice will increase now ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Mike and Kate are in it so it must be good
    Would be even better if they could eject Mike and Kate mid flight.

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    Pretty pathetic ad in my opinion (starts with some of our stunning scenery only to be snuffed out with poor content and acting) .........Sea Legs are probably the only winner with that one.
    Have a Gr8day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macduffy View Post
    Funny they choose this route anyway. Iran is not on any of their normal routes I am aware of and easy to avoid if you want to go from Europe to NZ. As well - most airlines heading from Europe towards SE Asia are passing this area towards the North or they go much more south-wards.

    Probably somebody responsible to determine the route who is not familiar with global politics ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Funny they choose this route anyway. Iran is not on any of their normal routes I am aware of and easy to avoid if you want to go from Europe to NZ. As well - most airlines heading from Europe towards SE Asia are passing this area towards the North or they go much more south-wards.

    Probably somebody responsible to determine the route who is not familiar with global politics ...
    Black Peter (who is always learning).

    Overflying Iran from Asia to Europe is the most popular route for airlines, generally the quickest and safest for most routes. Air NZ only flys to Europe via USA but the relatively limited range of the A321 means that the Asia route is more convenient. However, Iran closes down on Fridays so business is usually only done Sat-Thurs, so that might have been a factor as well.
    If you want avoid Iran try overflying Syria, Aghanistan, Russia, Ukraine, Iraq and see what the cost and safety factors are. You can't overfly Israel so forget that.
    Have a look at https://ops.group/blog/tag/overflight/ and you will see why problems can easily arise trying to route aircraft on unfamiliar routes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robomo View Post
    Black Peter (who is always learning).

    Overflying Iran from Asia to Europe is the most popular route for airlines, generally the quickest and safest for most routes. Air NZ only flys to Europe via USA but the relatively limited range of the A321 means that the Asia route is more convenient. However, Iran closes down on Fridays so business is usually only done Sat-Thurs, so that might have been a factor as well.
    If you want avoid Iran try overflying Syria, Aghanistan, Russia, Ukraine, Iraq and see what the cost and safety factors are. You can't overfly Israel so forget that.
    Have a look at https://ops.group/blog/tag/overflight/ and you will see why problems can easily arise trying to route aircraft on unfamiliar routes.
    Well, looks like the convenience of not flying West did pay out for them - didn't it? As well - given this was a one off - what would have been wrong with Egypt - Saudi Arabia? Anyway - it happened, and maybe they learn at some stage to check before take off whether they have all required permits and the paperwork done. Can't be that hard if you are running an airline.
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    At least the AIR delivery crew weren’t as bored as this pilot in Oz

    https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...box=1550670668
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Well, looks like the convenience of not flying West did pay out for them - didn't it? As well - given this was a one off - what would have been wrong with Egypt - Saudi Arabia? Anyway - it happened, and maybe they learn at some stage to check before take off whether they have all required permits and the paperwork done. Can't be that hard if you are running an airline.
    They knew before takeoff that they didn't have permission for Iran - yet.
    It was a risk move and the lost - it wasn't a mistake per se.

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    Interesting article re Qantas fuel costs ..probably applies to AIR

    Whatever a bit of education

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...22-p50zhr.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Interesting article re Qantas fuel costs ..probably applies to AIR

    Whatever a bit of education

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...22-p50zhr.html
    Interesting...this carrying extra fuel so you can burn more fuel in the same trip...bit like a dog chasing its tail. Pity all the folks down the back on these ultra long range flights in DVT class
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    Emirates confirms an order for 40 x A330-900 and 30 x A350-900, all with Rolls Royce engines, Trent 7000 for the A330 and Trent XWB for the A350. Faith in RR obviously still there despite the recent debacles

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    5,822,868 Shares traded on Friday. Biggest 1 day volume since 21 June 2017. Hopefully recovery is on the way.

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    I expect a result in the lower end of the range and perhaps a dividend cut while we maneuver through this engine issue. Interesting to see what they say on the forward bookings considering that passenger growth is not where it should be.

    We went through a small goldilocks period there of impressive tourist numbers as well as really cheap oil and I think this is more a reversion to the mean.

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