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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Huge new thermal resource found under alpine fault. So how about running rails along commuter lanes and building a big scalextric track in the cities.
    Indeed, this is a massive recent find, thermal power stations in the SI could radically change NZs energy makeup and be a huge economic boon to southerners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    Don't let a few inconvenient truths crash the narrative mm

    Same case with EV's. In NZ it may be environmentally friendly but in other countries with non-renewable energy sources such as coal and nuclear all you are doing is causing more harm to the environment as there is a process to convert to EV's. Much cleaner to run petrol there. That is another reason why it will take many years before EV's are the norm.
    Once you get the car, truck and bus fleet to be EVs, the change from fossil fuel to sustainable energy only needs to happen in a relatively small number of places - the power generators. Changing the fleet is the much larger task.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blobbles View Post
    One gets put into our atmosphere and could severely change life on earth as we know it. One does not. Pretty simple distinction.
    Ok. Raping and pillaging non renewables is fine as long as they dont end up in the atmosphere.

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    Copper won't be required, carbon / graphene will be the new material, can be coaxed into high conduction levels through nano tube structures.

    We HAVE to go electric, oxygen levels are falling through use of internal combustion engines and external combustion (jet) engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arc View Post
    Copper won't be required, carbon / graphene will be the new material, can be coaxed into high conduction levels through nano tube structures.

    We HAVE to go electric, oxygen levels are falling through use of internal combustion engines and external combustion (jet) engines.
    Not according to this but all dutch to me..

    https://www.quora.com/Is-graphene-go...t-happen-first

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    Quote Originally Posted by arc View Post
    We HAVE to go electric, oxygen levels are falling through use of internal combustion engines and external combustion (jet) engines.
    Utter rubbish

    That statement is just as accurate as saying "All humans drink water. All humans die. Therefore drinking water will kill humans"

    And a jet engine is an internal combustion engine.

    The steam engine is the last example of an external combustion engine I can think of. And you believe steam engines are having a catastrophic effect on the world????????

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    Steady on there xa; maybe posting some info would inform/correct arc rather than attacking him/her . From this article oxygen level falling is miniscule but not in our oceans where deadzones are happening due to O2 depletion.

    Why Scientists Aren't Freaking Out About Falling Oxygen Levels | Inverse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    ..... From this article oxygen level falling is miniscule but not in our oceans where deadzones are happening due to O2 depletion.....
    But note that this is due to pollution, not to burning fossil fuels "The primary contributor to these apocalyptic scenes is fertilizer runoff from agriculture, which causes algal blooms, providing a great feast for bacteria that consume oxygen. The abundance of these bacteria cause O2 levels to plummet, and if they go low enough, organisms that need it to survive swim away or die."

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    Quote Originally Posted by xafalcon View Post
    Utter rubbish. . .

    The steam engine is the last example of an external combustion engine I can think of. And you believe steam engines are having a catastrophic effect on the world????????
    Internal or external, I suspect that it's the combustion that counts.

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    Long term, what's the cost of electricity based on?

    Personally, I think it's the cost of fuel.

    On one side of the ledger, we have hydro, geothermal, wind, wave/tidal, and solar.
    On the other side of the ledger, we have coal, oil, nuclear, biomass and gas.

    The big thing that spins round and produces the electrons doesn't give two hoots what's making it spin. So why, long term, would you build a generation source which you have to keep shovelling money into to make that big spinning thing spin?

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