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    Default Will Metiria Turei illegal acts affect the Greens

    Bwahahaha. The hypocricy of it all. Benefit fraud (alleged) and loads of people back her. She seems to think its OK to suck off the tax payer teat as a young mum so no surprise she choose politics.

    While I think she should face the full wrath of the law (and receive the usual wet bus ticket slap) I cant see it impacting the Green vote

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Bwahahaha. The hypocricy of it all. Benefit fraud (alleged) and loads of people back her. She seems to think its OK to suck off the tax payer teat as a young mum so no surprise she choose politics.

    While I think she should face the full wrath of the law (and receive the usual wet bus ticket slap) I cant see it impacting the Green vote
    Benefit fraud - admitted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Benefit fraud - admitted.
    Admitted is different from guilty. Wait for the lawyers to get around the technicalities

    Oh- and we should add in electoral fraud with registering so she can vote for a mate. Must try that one myself to get out of brownlees electorate!

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    Heard that fraud officer is checking her ac n going to prosecute her.....

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    I'm still wondering what her real reason for revealing this at this time was.

    Did she think she could put some more heat on Paula Bennett by doing this? Or was she aware someone would out her first?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Admitted is different from guilty.
    Yes, but it eliminates the requirement to dance around every utterance by adding 'alleged'.

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    It gets thicker and thicker. According to this mornings news she was flatting with he mother part of the time and another part with the father of her child but she was only using that address so that she could vote for a friend who was standing in that electorate - but she wasn't actually living there.. Christine Rankin, on interview, pointed out that they regularly prosecuted people for this type of fraud and that MT would have filled in many false declarations during the period. In my view, prosecution is inevitable but it's unlikely to be resolved before the election.

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    You'd need to prosecute thousand and thousands more of people who were/are stuck in actual poverty traps and need/ed to do something to survive; feed the kids etc. Its bennett who is not acknowledging her possible worse fraud that needs to be investigated. Its white collar tax fraud that needs to be investigated far more; i mean home detention for stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars more!! Its the auditor general arguably the most powerful man in the land only going when forced too which is a scary thought to think that such a person was prepared to stay there!

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    But surely terminal stupidity is the real issue? The electoral roll shows her living at the address with the father of her children and her mother wile claiming benefits?

    People that stupid should not be leading political parties. She needs to resign with that sort of evidence against her.

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    I'm picking she'll do a todd Barclay. Take the pay until the elections and then disappear to a new life outside parliament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    You'd need to prosecute thousand and thousands more of people who were/are stuck in actual poverty traps and need/ed to do something to survive; feed the kids etc. !
    Metiria had time to go on protest marches so she had time to work and pull herself out of the "poverty trap" which obviously wasnt a trap but a lifestyle.

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    RESIGNing would be too honourable for her to do, I think. But hopefully not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    I'm picking she'll do a todd Barclay. Take the pay until the elections and then disappear to a new life outside parliament.
    Well i got that wrong. Obviuosly the snout is too secure in the trough

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    I'm waiting for metirias story of poverty of morals and poverty of obeying laws she is entrusted in making.

    More flakeyness from the greens. They should grow a spine and bin her. Says a lot about a party where 50% of them in a poll back her.

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    Obviously not bright enough to be a minister. Even in her 20's didn't consider any risk with bonking the flat mate without contraception.

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    Labour / Greens have a decent chance at forming a government this election. Ms Turei has said she won't be looking to be a minister. That sounds to me as if Labour has put the hard word on about that. That will limit the damage to the alliance, as otherwise it will be front and centre of every interview and leaders' debate. Maybe still will, as there is considerable hypocrisy in her previous calls for resignations, stand downs etc.

    Admitted welfare fraud and electoral fraud should really be a bridge too far. But she has managed to stay in her roles so far

    She will be hoping no further public admissions need be made. But a lot of people knew her and her living arrangements back in the day ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major von Tempsky View Post
    But surely terminal stupidity is the real issue? The electoral roll shows her living at the address with the father of her children and her mother wile claiming benefits?

    People that stupid should not be leading political parties. She needs to resign with that sort of evidence against her.
    How many 23 year olds also do stupid things? As a good professor said on RNZ this morning, this act of stupidity is on the low end of stupid things 23 year olds do.

    Hardly imo enough to have her resign, but certainly brings into question her morality and integrity. Arguably it's more stupid divulging her fraudulent past than having actually done it. Anyway, it's backfired on her and the Greens, with major parties distancing themselves from her in a cabinet role and damaging the Labour / Greens love-in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baa_Baa View Post
    How many 23 year olds also do stupid things? As a good professor said on RNZ this morning, this act of stupidity is on the low end of stupid things 23 year olds do.

    Hardly imo enough to have her resign, but certainly brings into question her morality and integrity. Arguably it's more stupid divulging her fraudulent past than having actually done it. Anyway, it's backfired on her and the Greens, with major parties distancing themselves from her in a cabinet role and damaging the Labour / Greens love-in.
    Depends why she did it, which is hardly likely to be to vote for her friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baa_Baa View Post
    How many 23 year olds also do stupid things? As a good professor said on RNZ this morning, this act of stupidity is on the low end of stupid things 23 year olds do.
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    Of course 23 year olds do stupid things. But remember how the three A's work

    First Accept what you have done is wrong.
    Second Apologise for your wrongdoing
    Third Atone in some way.

    Not seeing this from MT. Rather its the ends justify the means; no apology and cling to job so semi Claytons consequence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Of course 23 year olds do stupid things. But remember how the three A's work

    First Accept what you have done is wrong.
    Second Apologise for your wrongdoing
    Third Atone in some way.

    Not seeing this from MT. Rather its the ends justify the means; no apology and cling to job so semi Claytons consequence.
    It all started as a stunt, MT was sanctioned by the Greens to 'get some air' in the lead up to elections, by taking a calculated risk to divulge her benefit fraud, which worked very well as the polls showed. However, as things unfolded the media dug deeper, further revelations of electorate fraud emerged and it's turning to custard, for her, the Green's and the Labour coalition.

    I would be very surprised if she had divulged the electorate fraud to the Green's when outlining the original strategy to come clean on the benefits fraud! All together this could easily spiral into a complete disaster for; her - resigning (it's amazing that Jacinda has not demanded her resignation and merely said she would not be in a Labour led cabinet); for Greens - loss of voters and loss of Labour cooperation and coalition; for Labour - loss of coalition partner they so desperately need.

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