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Some farmers may have to pay $50,000 a year royalty for water?? I don't believe that bill.Scaremongering.
At 2c a cubic litre That would be 2.5 BILLION LITRES as much as 30,000 people use yearly(80 cubic m each)
Some farmers are incredibly inefficient and wasteful; they have to go or adapt and stop wasting our resource and contributing more pollution(nitrification with too much runoff)
A 1 or 2c royalty would achieve that almost overnight, win/win/win.
Last edited by Joshuatree; 13-09-2017 at 02:57 PM.
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Originally Posted by Joshuatree
At 2c a litre That would be 2.5 BILLION LITRES as much as 30,000 people use yearly(80 cubic m each)
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Those figures could well be right. I know that many farmers would use more than 5 cubic metres for 2 milkings. So that is already 5,000 litres per day. Multiply that by 365 you get 1.8 Million litres p/a. I think Bill may be onto something here.
My bad, I got a bit excited, its 1.8 million, but that is excluding trough water and then there is irrigation. Whichever way you cut it, a 2 cent levy per litre would be catastrophic for farmers.
Last edited by blackcap; 13-09-2017 at 10:36 AM.
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Originally Posted by blackcap
Those figures could well be right. I know that many farmers would use more than 5 cubic metres for 2 milkings. So that is already 5,000 litres per day. Multiply that by 365 you get 1.8 Billion litres p/a. I think Bill may be onto something here.
And that's before the farmer has filled his troughs. A dairy cow will drink 30+ litres a day. Heaven forbid he do any irrigating on top of that. I bet JT likes his milk and cheese though.
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Originally Posted by blackcap
Those figures could well be right. I know that many farmers would use more than 5 cubic metres for 2 milkings. So that is already 5,000 litres per day. Multiply that by 365 you get 1.8 Million litres p/a. I think Bill may be onto something here.
My bad, I got a bit excited, its 1.8 million, but that is excluding trough water and then there is irrigation. Whichever way you cut it, a 2 cent levy per litre would be catastrophic for farmers.
Labour are talking 2 cents a cumec (1000 litres) and only for irrigation. Stock water is excluded.
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Where have you got that detail from FD ? Do you have a link. I think many people would be very interested to see detail on this or any other policy from Labour.
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Originally Posted by iceman
Where have you got that detail from FD ? Do you have a link. I think many people would be very interested to see detail on this or any other policy from Labour.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/far...water-bottlers
I have a mate with 3 smallish centre pivots and he reckons it would cost about $8000 a year
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Originally Posted by iceman
Where have you got that detail from FD ? Do you have a link. I think many people would be very interested to see detail on this or any other policy from Labour.
Just go to their website it is all there. Interesting no one queries the royalty paid (resource rental) to extract oil,gas, gold ,coal, and gravel but water? Dairy farming is having major effects in Canterbury and there are large numbers of multiple corparate farms. I see no reason why they should not pay for the water used to make profits.
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Originally Posted by joshuatree
some farmers may have to pay $50,000 a year royalty for water?? I don't believe that bill.scaremongering.
At 2c a litre that would be 2.5 billion litres....
50,000/0.02 = 2,500,000
2.5 million litres
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If your figs are correct. They are being inefficient too imo generally. User pays no matter how small brings efficiency and conservation.
78 to 80 % of water is used in irrigation and about 3 % for troughs, milking etc.
In canterbury they are using 3 million litres per hectare /year in some places. Nitrification plus!. Time for farmers to value their resource and become more efficient and conserving of our water. A 1 or 2 cents a cubic metre would achieve this. maybe all of us should pay royalty for the use of water. Id pay about $1.60 a year for my 80 cubes.
Labour should charge all for water - economist
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If so PT 2.5 million litres =2500 cumetres x .02cents =$50
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