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    Maybe its my left leaning bias but David says
    But Seymour, who is opposed to the (wealth) tax, had a different view. When asked by AM co-host Ryan Bridge whether he has an issue with the inequality of wealth, Seymour said no.

    "No, I have a problem with poverty, I have a problem with people lacking opportunity…"

    I am probably misguided but isn't the reducing opportunity for social mobility largely due to an increasing wealth gap.

    David Seymour will need the crackpot vote at the next election to bring in any other MPs with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    Maybe its my left leaning bias but David says
    But Seymour, who is opposed to the (wealth) tax, had a different view. When asked by AM co-host Ryan Bridge whether he has an issue with the inequality of wealth, Seymour said no.

    "No, I have a problem with poverty, I have a problem with people lacking opportunity…"

    I am probably misguided but isn't the reducing opportunity for social mobility largely due to an increasing wealth gap.
    Not necessarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    Maybe its my left leaning bias but David says
    But Seymour, who is opposed to the (wealth) tax, had a different view. When asked by AM co-host Ryan Bridge whether he has an issue with the inequality of wealth, Seymour said no.

    "No, I have a problem with poverty, I have a problem with people lacking opportunity…".
    They don't want the competition from poor kids.

    Luxon gave the example of education being wasteful spending.

    So trim that and hand it out as a tax cut.
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    David putting himself forward as protector of a minority group.

    At least he doesn't called them an "oppressed" minority at this stage.

    But it is laughable.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...7b556ae9bcea7e

    Hey FP is the lack of social mobility due to 90% of the country being lazy and stupid or is that just the bottom 50%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    David putting himself forward as protector of a minority group.

    At least he doesn't called them an "oppressed" minority at this stage.

    But it is laughable.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...7b556ae9bcea7e

    Hey FP is the lack of social mobility due to 90% of the country being lazy and stupid or is that just the bottom 50%.
    90% of the country are not lazy or stupid, and are not socially immobile. Do the lazy and/or stupid not deserve to be what they are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    David putting himself forward as protector of a minority group.

    At least he doesn't called them an "oppressed" minority at this stage.

    But it is laughable.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...7b556ae9bcea7e

    Hey FP is the lack of social mobility due to 90% of the country being lazy and stupid or is that just the bottom 50%.
    Some measure a person's inherent worth by the money they make.

    But that sort of thinking is contrary to human rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    90% of the country are not lazy or stupid, and are not socially immobile. Do the lazy and/or stupid not deserve to be what they are?
    The lazy maybe, I can't help it if I am stupid though.

    Social mobility currently depends more and more on what family you are born into, not whether you are lazy or stupid. I can't see how David Seymours policies provide more opportunity for those with the wrong Mum & Dad.

    Sadly he probably believes trickle down economics works.

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    I thought this headline might add some perspective as I am obviously biased.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...8062124faa065f

    Agreed just taxing rich people may not help alleviate poverty but I guess we also have to assume all govt is corrupt or incompetent and alternatively the invisible hand will provide an answer.

    Trish Sherson obviously a trickle downer and I can't help but agree with Chris Patterson's view although he is probably a bleeding heart lefty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    The lazy maybe, I can't help it if I am stupid though.
    That's true. You are obviously not stupid but those that are usually can't help it. I should not have thrown them in with the lazy. To all those readers who are stupid, please accept my apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    The lazy maybe, I can't help it if I am stupid though.

    Social mobility currently depends more and more on what family you are born into, not whether you are lazy or stupid. I can't see how David Seymours policies provide more opportunity for those with the wrong Mum & Dad.

    Sadly he probably believes trickle down economics works.
    Hundreds of thousands of migrants cd to NZ over the years and the majority of them have nothing but their education, qualifications and skills - and they end up doing very very well. In fact, many of them sacrificed everything and paid to get educated in NZ and then, stayed on and prosper.

    Guess why?

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