ACT's David Seymour - i like his style.

[Daytr]

[QUOTE=fungus pudding;1008172]Maybe Act's opponents are clueless and irresponsible.
https://www.act.org.nz/tax[/QUOTE

Well that is a statement that slags off 88% of the population that doesn't support ACT. They clearly don't believe in Climate Change but are still prepared to take the money in a fraudulent proposal to bribe NZ families. They state the scheme won't reduce emissions, well the deal with NZ Steel clearly displays what can be done to reduce a significant amount of emissions.

Overall the amount of tax revenue will reduce dramatically under their tax cuts and the Government debt will blow up. Yes irresponsible.

[fungus pudding]

[QUOTE=Daytr;1008316]

Maybe Act's opponents are clueless and irresponsible.
https://www.act.org.nz/tax[/QUOTE

Well that is a statement that slags off 88% of the population that doesn't support ACT. They clearly don't believe in Climate Change but are still prepared the money in a fraudulent proposal to bribe NZ families. They state the scheme won't reduce emissions, well the deal with NZ Steel clearly displays what can be done to reduce a significant amount of emissions.

Overall the amount of tax revenue will reduce dramatically under their tax cuts and the Government debt will blow up. Yes irresponsible.

Not supporting a party is hardly opposing them in a system where we have one party vote.

[Daytr]

[QUOTE=fungus pudding;1008321]

Not supporting a party is hardly opposing them in a system where we have one party vote.

Interesting that's what you concentrated on in the reply to my post.

[justakiwi]

Quoting posts

I don't want to take this off-topic, but there is a lot of incorrect quoting happening in this thread currently. It might not seem a big deal, but as you can see from fungus pudding's post above, it often results in quotes being attributed to the wrong person, which is not ideal.

When you "Reply with Quote" you need to make sure you don't accidentally delete any brackets if you edit the quoted material. The part you are quoting from someone else's post must begin with QUOTE (in square brackets) and end with QUOTE (in square brackets but with a forward slash / before the word QUOTE).

If you remember to check that you have this correct, before you submit your post, it will post correctly. If you post then find it has not, go back and edit it until you have it right).

This will ensure that you don't misquote anyone and run the risk of upsetting them, and it will also reduce the frustration of those of us who are a little OCD about these things

Thank you!

[SBQ]

[QUOTE=Daytr;1008316]

Maybe Act's opponents are clueless and irresponsible.
https://www.act.org.nz/tax[/QUOTE

Well that is a statement that slags off 88% of the population that doesn't support ACT. They clearly don't believe in Climate Change but are still prepared to take the money in a fraudulent proposal to bribe NZ families. They state the scheme won't reduce emissions, well the deal with NZ Steel clearly displays what can be done to reduce a significant amount of emissions.

Overall the amount of tax revenue will reduce dramatically under their tax cuts and the Government debt will blow up. Yes irresponsible.

What? Being irresponsible is how the gov't wastes $ by spending and spending out of control (and the reason why inflation is so high). The ONLY way to deter this mindset is to reduce the tax take so the smaller pile of $ forces the government to budget for less (or what Milton Friedman says, 'plus what ever they can get away spending' into a deficit). But don't take my word for it, most people don't have an understanding of macro-economics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoZHXOPepWU

and to reinforce what Mr Friedman (may he RIP) says, 'that congress (or in NZ's case our gov't) will spend everything they can get their hands on... and then some"

https://youtu.be/ndmmO07ckAU

[t.rexjr]

The deal with NZ Steel clearly displays what can be done to reduce a significant amount of emissions.

Is the NZ Steel 'deal' anything more than fluff? The furnaces are limited to recycling Steel. Still need coking coal to produce the steel in the first instance. Is it possible to source enough recyclable Steel to produce any significant quantity and be a cost effective operation?
An expensive show at the cost of the public subsidising a private company is what it looks to me. Meh

[Panda-NZ-]

What? Being irresponsible is how the gov't wastes $ by spending and spending out of control (and the reason why inflation is so high). The ONLY way to deter this mindset is to reduce the tax take so the smaller pile of $ forces the government to budget for less (or what Milton Friedman says, 'plus what ever they can get away spending' into a deficit). But don't take my word for it, most people don't have an understanding of macro-economics:

Then change what they spend money on, rather than throw out taxes or call for anarchy.

[Daytr]

Is the NZ Steel 'deal' anything more than fluff? The furnaces are limited to recycling Steel. Still need coking coal to produce the steel in the first instance. Is it possible to source enough recyclable Steel to produce any significant quantity and be a cost effective operation?
An expensive show at the cost of the public subsidising a private company is what it looks to me. Meh

No its the opposite of fluff, it's a very real & significant reduction by one of NZs significant emissions producers. Coking coal & steaming coal are very different beasts as to are the quantities consumed by NZ Steel.

[Daytr]

[QUOTE=SBQ;1008411]

What? Being irresponsible is how the gov't wastes $ by spending and spending out of control (and the reason why inflation is so high). The ONLY way to deter this mindset is to reduce the tax take so the smaller pile of $ forces the government to budget for less (or what Milton Friedman says, 'plus what ever they can get away spending' into a deficit). But don't take my word for it, most people don't have an understanding of macro-economics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoZHXOPepWU

and to reinforce what Mr Friedman (may he RIP) says, 'that congress (or in NZ's case our gov't) will spend everything they can get their hands on... and then some"

https://youtu.be/ndmmO07ckAU

I am all for more efficient use of tax payers money but there are many areas that are already underfunded such as health, education & infrastructure. Tax cuts are not going to improve that funding deficit.

[Balance]

[QUOTE=Daytr;1008518]

I am all for more efficient use of tax payers money but there are many areas that are already underfunded such as health, education & infrastructure. Tax cuts are not going to improve that funding deficit.

Labour Party BS.

$1.9 billion for mental health with not one single additional bed added.

$1 billion for emergency housing with no long term positive outcome.

$1 billion to feed consultants with no positive outcomes but more wasteful spending.

$56m for bike bridge to nowhere has to be the absolute example of how this labour government treats taxpayers’ funds - wh and fancy.

Garbage as usual from Labour parasite and loser.