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    Good old Matthew Hooton - expose Luxon for what he is (a man without real beliefs - one's he wouldn't sell for power).
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...JEJLCUVFQWAIY/
    Christopher Luxon can't possibly believe abortion is murder.

    If he does, he's a moral cretin — if not for the belief itself, then for failing to act upon it.

    If you think abortion is murder, you don't devote your life to selling deodorant in Canada or bums on seats in New Zealand. You immediately act to stop it.

    To be fair, Luxon has never directly said that abortion is murder. His political sin was agreeing with that proposition in one of his first interviews as party leader in December.

    Even then, he was adamant there were no public policy implications from his beliefs.

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    National's Simeon Brown wanted a list kept of all women who have had an abortion & how many abortions they have had.
    He's also the MP who liked O'Connors post celebrating the overturning of women's health rights with Roe V Wade.

    I see in the US, abortion may become a felony crime, meaning if you've had an abortion the loss of certain rights including you won't be able to vote in elections in some states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    National's Simeon Brown wanted a list kept of all women who have had an abortion & how many abortions they have had.
    He's also the MP who liked O'Connors post celebrating the overturning of women's health rights with Roe V Wade.

    I see in the US, abortion may become a felony crime, meaning if you've had an abortion the loss of certain rights including you won't be able to vote in elections in some states.
    Luxon has made National’s position crystal clear on abortion.

    In contrast, we have Robertson & Mahuta ducking and lying about what is Labour’s position.

    Labour is getting so very very desperate.

    Anything to divert attention away from the health, housing, crime and poverty disasters created by Ardern & her team of nincompoops, supported by an army of taxpayer funded spin doctors.

    All spin and no delivery Ardern.

    Last edited by Balance; 02-07-2022 at 11:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Anything to divert attention away from the health, housing, crime and poverty disasters created by Ardern & her team of nincompoops, supported by an army of taxpayer funded spin doctors.
    What disasters?

    When will national "deliver" some policies rather than flip flopping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    What disasters?

    When will national "deliver" some policies rather than flip flopping.
    One would have to be blind, deaf or a labour shill to not see the disasters (which are getting too many to list).

    ardern and her band of clowns are self-immolating so National have the luxury of delaying policy announcements. The way labour are going, National may never need another policy announcement.

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    What little they have delivered is their own self-immolation though.

    They can't help but screwing up on the policy side and the media will help labour to put holes in it
    Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 02-07-2022 at 11:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    National's Simeon Brown wanted a list kept of all women who have had an abortion & how many abortions they have had.
    He's also the MP who liked O'Connors post celebrating the overturning of women's health rights with Roe V Wade.
    Only one person gets to make a list and its not a twerp like simeon brown:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqG621-drmk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Only one person gets to make a list and its not a twerp like simeon brown:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqG621-drmk

    Ha, yep Simeon's another one of National's creepy MP's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Luxon has made National’s position crystal clear on abortion.

    In contrast, we have Robertson & Mahuta ducking and lying about what is Labour’s position.

    Labour is getting so very very desperate.

    Anything to divert attention away from the health, housing, crime and poverty disasters created by Ardern & her team of nincompoops, supported by an army of taxpayer funded spin doctors.

    All spin and no delivery Ardern.


    You've got to be kidding!
    Remember it was Labour who started the process & introduced legislation to take abortion out of the crimes act in 2019.
    It was in the news a bit at the time!

    On a conscious vote, 2/3rds of National MP's 35 of them, voted to against the change while just a handful of Labour Mp's.

    With the politically appointed Conservative SC overturning law which had stood for the last 50 years of womens health rights, and the LOTO Luxon & a substantial block of Conservative MP's within National sharing similar personal convictions around abortion, many women here are naturally not only worried but furious.
    When Luxon said women should be focused on the cost of living and not womens health rights, he only inflamed the situation.
    Mental note for Luxon, in future don't ever tell women what they should & should not be concerned about !

    The problems NZ face are similar to the problems countries around the world are facing at the moment, look at the couple of thousand 501 gang members who have been deported to NZ since 2017, or the inflation rates around the world due to money printing to avoid recession, or the shortage of labour everywhere, or countries health systems struggling due to the covid pandemic, many countries desperately short of nurses. You give Adern to much credit for causing or being able to solve global issues with quick fixes.
    Last edited by Blue Skies; 02-07-2022 at 01:27 PM.

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    Pattrick Gower thinks Luxon's abortion views could cost him the 2023 election:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEbxlWai0iA

    He does seem more suited to running for a US election under the republican party banner (though in the bill clinton era), than modern NZ in 2023.
    Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 02-07-2022 at 01:45 PM.

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