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    Bridges ringing Slater! Its like he secretly wants to be rolled!. Keep digging simon.

    Meanwhile if you havn't read the book here is some tasters and even parts that weren't in the book and its free ,to give one a brief intro insiders guide to dirty politics all the way up to judith collins & john key.
    Dirty Politics, 2018: Nicky Hager assesses the Jami-Lee Ross saga

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    Nicky Hagar suggesting there may be a concerted effort to roll Bridges going on. If so who else would be behind it? Obvious person is Judith Collins and she has the history and dirty friends to do it. She may have the lust but has a few big holes in her personality/ credibility about what is acceptable and what is not.

    What about someone like Mark Mitchell the stone face assassin? He put his name up, fishing for support for the leadership then withdrew it . I think he used Lusk to eliminate other candidates for the electorate he won.

    He came out before his leader saying he was strongly opposed to using the Waka jumping bill to dump Jamie L Ross. And Bennett, a dangerous deceptive, scheming tactician behind the scenes as can be heard in the latest tape released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Nicky Hagar suggesting there may be a concerted effort to roll Bridges going on. If so who else would be behind it? Obvious person is Judith Collins and she has the history and dirty friends to do it. She may have the lust but has a few big holes in her personality/ credibility about what is acceptable and what is not.

    What about someone like Mark Mitchell the stone face assassin? He put his name up, fishing for support for the leadership then withdrew it . I think he used Lusk to eliminate other candidates for the electorate he won.

    He came out before his leader saying he was strongly opposed to using the Waka jumping bill to dump Jamie L Ross. And Bennett, a dangerous deceptive, scheming tactician behind the scenes as can be heard in the latest tape released.
    You should think of writing books. There is always a market for good fiction.

    In my opinion you have Slater using a sick person for his own agenda.

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    Would be a boring world with only one's own opinion in it. You read books?

    Yes im thinking Slater / Lusk etc may be using Jamie L R who is paying him/them,but maybe as a smokescreen for other payer/players , now involved, opportunity knocks , for MP's who are playing a deeper, longer game, to become leader for example. this is what maybe Nicky Hagar is alluding to .

    And remember Slater etc are mercenaries and they need to be paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Would be a boring world with only one's own opinion in it. You read books?

    Yes im thinking Slater / Lusk etc may be using Jamie L R who is paying him/them,but maybe as a smokescreen for other payer/players , now involved, opportunity knocks , for MP's who are playing a deeper, longer game, to become leader for example. this is what maybe Nicky Hagar is alluding to .

    And remember Slater etc are mercenaries and they need to be paid.
    It really isnt news that Bridges is not highly regarded. He was selected because National need a fresh "young" face to counter the Adern affect. Wouldn't have been my choice - I would have put collins in as an attack dog for a couple of years and then bought Bridges (or another) in to front the election campaign.

    It would be truly odious if Slater or Lusk were using JLR - he is obviously an ill man. No-one should be exploiting him during such a time.

    ( As for the latest tape release - I reckon Bridges and Bennet were doing a pretty good job trying to let a man move along with some dignity. Unfortunately, given the fact the conversation was being subversively recorded JLR was too far gone for that.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    That will upset the proportionality of Parliament. Expect to see Waka Jumping invoked in no time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    That will upset the proportionality of Parliament. Expect to see Waka Jumping invoked in no time.
    Taking JLR aboard would be a bit hypocritical for Winnie, wouldn't it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    That will upset the proportionality of Parliament. Expect to see Waka Jumping invoked in no time.
    No it won;t as Winnie says he will vote this particular vote with National. What a farce.

    Yes you are right FP about Winnie. There is no limit to his hypocrisy and double standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    No it won;t as Winnie says he will vote this particular vote with National. What a farce.
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    Voting the same way that national does is not the same as a National vote. It is simply against (presumably) a piece of legislation. Same as when NZ First vote "for " a piece of Labour legislation - thats not a labour vote. Its a For vote.

    Proportionality is about having the same number of National votes recognised. Not the same number of for / against votes.

    What happens in a conscience vote?

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