National - FFS!

[Balance]

I suppose evading the poll question is better than you mentioning Hitler again, I suppose at your aged its to be expected old chap.

No sweat grasshopper. When I get my super, I will happily shout you a super flash meal as you will be contributing hopefully to it. 🤣

Kiwibuild?

[Panda-NZ-]

Kiwibuild?

3 leaders in six months? Maybe a fourth on the way with the poor polling.

[tim23]

No sweat grasshopper. When I get my super, I will happily shout you a super flash meal as you will be contributing hopefully to it. ��

Kiwibuild?

I reckon you're probably on the super now old fella

[Balance]

I reckon you're probably on the super now old fella

$10,000 bet?

Or you can make it $100,000 if you like.

Let’s see whether you are man or mouse or grasshopper? 😊💃🏻🕺

[Balance]

$10,000 bet?

Or you can make it $100,000 if you like.

Let’s see whether you are man or mouse or grasshopper? 😊💃🏻🕺

Come on, tim23 - giving you a chance to back up your assertion and triple your net wealth.

As your Cindy says, let’s do this - $10k, $100k or I will bet you the value of your house if you like.

BTW - I love playing poker.

[dobby41]

$10,000 bet?

Or you can make it $100,000 if you like.

Let’s see whether you are man or mouse or grasshopper? ��������

Not adding anything useful to the debate.
Maybe you guys could stop the pissing contest and get on with the useful debate?

[Balance]

Not adding anything useful to the debate.
Maybe you guys could stop the pissing contest and get on with the useful debate?

Stay out, dobby41 - your Labourite mate tim23 is on the rack and clearly pissing into his beer. Let’s see if the nobody fronts up.

[dobby41]

Stay out, dobby41 - your Labourite mate tim23 is on the rack and clearly pissing into his beer. Let’s see if the nobody fronts up.

Get a grip and get back to the subject - try and get some balance

[Balance]

Get a grip and get back to the subject - try and get some balance

Back off, dobby41- you are not helping your Labourite mate tim23 with your pathetic Cindy inspired attempt at deflection.

I am not like you & your loser lot - I assert and am prepared to back it up.

I am calling tim23 out and giving him a chance to get richer - this is no idle bet from me. Real bet with real money for tim23 to make or lose.

[BlackPeter]

3 leaders in six months? Maybe a fourth on the way with the poor polling.

To be fair ... while I don't particularly like Judith, she exceeded my expectations in the recent leaders debate (and I mean that positive). I don't think what National has left as a team is good enough, but Judith might well be the best from the remaining National MP's to run the party (to be fair - I don't know them all ).

National will need after the elections somebody tidying up a run down party. They need to get rid of a culture of dirty politics (a' la Michelle Boag), incompetent recruitment practises (the incompetence of the recruiters / candidate selectors picking people like Jami-Lee Ross, Hamish Walker or Andrew Falloon into MP positions is mindboggling - in all these cases they must have ignored battle fields full of red flags) and lots of other filth as well (there are many other candidate selections surrounded by question marks - Auckland central anyone?).

National will need as well to reopen their ranks for the liberals they recently got rid off. No party is able to win under MMP the elections without embracing the middle ground. This is not FPP, where a minority (like e.g. in the US) is able to harass and control the country by governing against the will of the majority of the voters.

I think the crusher might well be able to clean out the Augeas stable which National turned into. New Zealand needs a strong centre right party, and Judith Collins might well be the best person to rebuild it. Not sure I expect to see a new National leader soon. Give Judith three or six years to rebuild the party and then she can do an Andrew Little and free up the space for the next New Zealand Prime Minister.