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20-10-2020, 10:49 AM
#1701
Originally Posted by Bjauck
I have read this again. So, far from its being irrelevant, I understand what you are implying now: There are many in the National Party who are either homophobic or wish that if there are any gay National MPs, that they remain in the closet. Is that correct? Is that the Trump/Putin wing of The Party? Are you OK with that for the contemporary National or ACT Party?
Conservative voters will be happy with Act and National not having any openly gay MP's, I've had gay friends but I don't support their lifestyle, is that okay or am I not allowed a personal conviction?
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20-10-2020, 11:39 AM
#1702
Originally Posted by couta1
Conservative voters will be happy with Act and National not having any openly gay MP's, I've had gay friends but I don't support their lifestyle, is that okay or am I not allowed a personal conviction?
Of course you can choose with whom you socialise and have as friends. It depends what not "supporting their lifestyle" means. If it means discrimination in employment and services then it is not OK.
If it means that National Party candidates are selected on whether they appear straight and/or "in", then they are on the wrong side of history.
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20-10-2020, 11:39 AM
#1703
Originally Posted by Raz
Yeah why do the Greens not attract straight men to their list of MPs....I like the diversity of thought and experience that come from a representative population onto a party list.
The Greens are the least representative/diversified party in Parliament :-)
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20-10-2020, 11:43 AM
#1704
Originally Posted by iceman
The Greens are the least representative/diversified party in Parliament :-)
Or the most representative of what they stand for?
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20-10-2020, 11:47 AM
#1705
Originally Posted by Bjauck
Of course you can choose with whom you socialise and have as friends. It depends what not "supporting their lifestyle" means. If it means discrimination in employment and services then it is not OK.
If it means that National Party candidates are selected on whether they appear straight and/or "in", then they are on the wrong side of history.
Plenty of skirt chasers in National like Andrew Falloon & Jami Lee Ross instead?
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20-10-2020, 11:48 AM
#1706
Originally Posted by dobby41
Or the most representative of what they stand for?
People gravitate towards where they are accepted as equals.
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20-10-2020, 11:50 AM
#1707
Originally Posted by Bjauck
Of course you can choose with whom you socialise and have as friends. It depends what not "supporting their lifestyle" means. If it means discrimination in employment and services then it is not OK.
If it means that National Party candidates are selected on whether they appear straight and/or "in", then they are on the wrong side of history.
No it simply means that I don't personally agree with their lifestyle choice but I accept them as equal human beings.
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20-10-2020, 12:09 PM
#1708
Originally Posted by couta1
No it simply means that I don't personally agree with their lifestyle choice but I accept them as equal human beings.
How they choose to live their life? Do you think being gay is a choice any more than being straight?
Anyway if National Party candidate selection is based on sexuality, then they may well go the way of the Dodo...
Last edited by Bjauck; 20-10-2020 at 12:15 PM.
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20-10-2020, 12:22 PM
#1709
Originally Posted by Bjauck
How they choose to live their life? Do you think being gay is a choice any more than being straight?
Anyway if National Party candidate selection is based on sexuality, then they may well go the way of the Dodo...
You seem to stretch things out way beyond there original intention like your trying to lead people to accepting that your viewpoint is the only correct one.
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20-10-2020, 12:30 PM
#1710
Originally Posted by couta1
You seem to stretch things out way beyond there original intention like your trying to lead people to accepting that your viewpoint is the only correct one.
I must have misunderstood "choice." I was just trying to understand your view. Anyway, time to get back to discussing the NP.
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