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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    If everyone knows then Luxon should be honest enough to say what he would cut - he isn't and hasn't, and won't.
    He wants to remove public transport subsidies, then doesn't.
    $1bn from Labout is inflationary but $1.8bn from National (mostly to the wealthy) isn't (and will help those struggling).

    Yes we know what he will do - cut spending as they did before which gave us a failing education and health system.
    Open your eyes.
    Nope - the cuts are coming and without butting an eyelid, $3 billion savings will be made. Easy as.

    Think public sector efficiency & productivity. Cut waste and frivolous spending - the hallmarks of Arden.

    And tax cuts go into savings - which helps investments and boost productivity.

    Luxon is playing it exactly as he should - let Ardern hang herself as she is doing so incredibly well.
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    They're going to cut GST back to 12.5%, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Nope - the cuts are coming and without butting an eyelid, $3 billion savings will be made. Easy as.

    Think public sector efficiency & productivity. Cut waste and frivolous spending - the hallmarks of Arden.

    And tax cuts go into savings - which helps investments and boost productivity.

    Luxon is playing it exactly as he should - let Ardern hang herself as she is doing so incredibly well.
    Again, maybe Luxon could be honest about it.
    Cutting health and education (like National did last time) will put us backward again.

    As for wasteful spending, maybe you could help National because they can't find anything wasteful apart from about $100mil.
    They say Robertson spends 'like a drunken sailor' but can't say what on.
    They sound more like Trump and his pithy sound bites every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Again, maybe Luxon could be honest about it.
    Cutting health and education (like National did last time) will put us backward again.

    As for wasteful spending, maybe you could help National because they can't find anything wasteful apart from about $100mil.
    They say Robertson spends 'like a drunken sailor' but can't say what on.
    They sound more like Trump and his pithy sound bites every day.
    Why should Luxon show his hand until election year? What are you on about re honesty when the Ardern government has been spinning misinformation and lies non stop since taking office? Why are you not demanding honesty & transparency from Ardern?

    Anyone with half a pea brain just have to observe how wasteful and ineffective Ardern has been with public spending and know where the cuts are coming.

    As for the Finance Minister & DPM, give you some feedback on Robertson from Labour's focus groups last week on the budget when they held sessions with him - 'arrogant, closed minded, thinks he knows it all and waiting in the wings to be NZ's first openly-gay PM'. Remember the feedback is from card carrying Labour members.
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    Despite Luxon after 12 days as leader of National saying, "as opposition we have to propose ideas, if we are going to earn back the trust of NZ'ers, we have to have good ideas", 6 months later there has not been one single new idea or policy.

    Its easy to criticise day after day, but i'ld really like to hear some constructive policies & solutions or I might start to think the total inexperience of Luxon & Willis in government (Luxon a 1st term MP & neither have even been a minister ) is showing how unprepared they & the hollowed out caucus now devoid of talent & experience are to lead any form of govt.

    Lets hear some of those 'good ideas' some coherent policies if they actually exist !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Despite Luxon after 12 days as leader of National saying, "as opposition we have to propose ideas, if we are going to earn back the trust of NZ'ers, we have to have good ideas", 6 months later there has not been one single new idea or policy.

    Its easy to criticise day after day, but i'ld really like to hear some constructive policies & solutions or I might start to think the total inexperience of Luxon & Willis in government (Luxon a 1st term MP & neither have even been a minister ) is showing how unprepared they & the hollowed out caucus now devoid of talent & experience are to lead any form of govt.

    Lets hear some of those 'good ideas' some coherent policies if they actually exist !
    For your reading pleasure:

    https://www.national.org.nz/policy

    Meanwhile, you and the likes of dobby41 willingly and eagerly got sucked into Ardern’s big promises & ideas of fixing all of NZ problems - housing, health, education, crime, child poverty, transparency and kindness. She has delivered none and you have been busy making excuses non stop for her and her team of nincompoops for the last 4.5 years and continue to do so.

    If you really want to start thinking, start with Kiwibuild and work from there on how Ardern has totally failed to deliver on new and fresh ideas to make NZ a better place.

    Then, think about how much harm Ardern has done yo NZ with her spin and hypocrisy.

    The latest polls show Ardern & Labour falling back further behind National - want to know why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    For your reading pleasure:

    https://www.national.org.nz/policy
    Do you believe that?
    You really are sucked in, aren't you?
    National wants to go back to the past where they reduced spending (in real terms) on health and education all the while getting lots of immigrants to boost the GDP.
    Unfortunately, along with more population wanting to access the reduced health and education, they didn't do anything about the infrastructure required for the increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Do you believe that?
    You really are sucked in, aren't you?
    National wants to go back to the past where they reduced spending (in real terms) on health and education all the while getting lots of immigrants to boost the GDP.
    Unfortunately, along with more population wanting to access the reduced health and education, they didn't do anything about the infrastructure required for the increase.
    I can identify $3 billion of spending cuts effortlessly without touching health, education or policing.

    Like I wrote, Luxon is playing it smart by holding fire while letting Ardern make a jackass out of herself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    I can identify $3 billion of spending cuts effortlessly without touching health, education or policing
    You can (and it would probably be cruel and brutal to NZers).

    Its a pity luxon can't though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    I can identify $3 billion of spending cuts effortlessly without touching health, education or policing.

    Like I wrote, Luxon is playing it smart by holding fire while letting Ardern make a jackass out of herself.
    As I suggested - maybe you should advise Luxon and Willis - they can't identify that.
    Meanwhile, Luxon is digging himself a deeper hole every time he speaks.

    We shouldn't have transport subsidies one minute then backtracks when someone tells him that we already have lots and public transport would fail if we didn't (same as overseas).
    Out of his depth at the moment.
    I hope he becomes more credible in the next 18 months - the country deserves a credible opposition.

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