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13-07-2022, 02:29 PM
#2311
Originally Posted by Balance
Links and references to your claim.
I cannot find any contradictions as you posted anywhere.
Originally Posted by Balance
Times change and strategies change - that’s just how things are!
You are referring to Chris Bishop from months and months ago!!!!!! From last year in fact!!!!!
Try harder. You are sounding desperate.
When shown the contradiction you change tack - a lot like National.
Luxon swings all over the place.
What's with running down the country while overseas - talk about stab us in the back (he then tries to walk back some of what he said).
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13-07-2022, 02:46 PM
#2312
Originally Posted by dobby41
When shown the contradiction you change tack - a lot like National.
Luxon swings all over the place.
What's with running down the country while overseas - talk about stab us in the back (he then tries to walk back some of what he said).
How pathetic for you to come out to try & defend BS’s attempt at misinformation and then, deflection. Sad!
Try harder as the majority of NZers simply have had enough of the deflections and misinformation coming out of Ardern’s camp.
Remember Hipkins’ episode with Charlotte Bellis? That’s how low you lot are stopping down to in desperation as the Ardern star implodes into the dust cloud of spin, bull and non delivery for which her government is now synonymous with.
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/po...emergency-miq/
Former Covid-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins made false statements about Charlotte Bellis despite officials discussing the correct information prior, before taking nearly six months to correct the public record.
Last edited by Balance; 13-07-2022 at 02:49 PM.
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13-07-2022, 03:07 PM
#2313
Originally Posted by Blue Skies
This is not what we need in a PM esp at a time when we are facing such massive global problems.
In a time of crisis his first priority would be "business".
Australia has just passed a law which bans MPs from owning shares or interests in a trust.. should do the same here.
Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 13-07-2022 at 03:16 PM.
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13-07-2022, 03:12 PM
#2314
Originally Posted by Balance
How pathetic for you to come out to try & defend BS’s attempt at misinformation and then, deflection. Sad!
Try harder as the majority of NZers simply have had enough of the deflections and misinformation coming out of Ardern’s camp.
Remember Hipkins’ episode with Charlotte Bellis? That’s how low you lot are stopping down to in desperation as the Ardern star implodes into the dust cloud of spin, bull and non delivery for which her government is now synonymous with.
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/po...emergency-miq/
Former Covid-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins made false statements about Charlotte Bellis despite officials discussing the correct information prior, before taking nearly six months to correct the public record.
The personal information Hipkins shared & made a mistake with was mixing up the dates when she was in which country, UK or Belgium & Afghanistan.
He had rather a lot on his plate at the time dealing with some major portfolios.
Secondly, he couldn't apologise publicly any earlier because he was respecting Charlotte Bellis insisting she would determine the date he could make a public statement & apologise.
Why are you still getting so incensed & inflamed about it?
The matter was all sorted, Charlotte Bellis is fine.
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13-07-2022, 03:15 PM
#2315
Originally Posted by Blue Skies
The personal information Hipkins shared & made a mistake with was mixing up the dates when she was in which country, UK or Belgium & Afghanistan.
He had rather a lot on his plate at the time dealing with some major portfolios.
Secondly, he couldn't apologise publicly any earlier because he was respecting Charlotte Bellis insisting she would determine the date he could make a public statement & apologise.
Why are you still getting so incensed & inflamed about it?
The matter was all sorted, Charlotte Bellis is fine.
Not true and you are still trying to spread further misinformation and deflect from Hipkins’ dastardly behaviour.
He released the information to incite abuse against Bellis and her partner - no other reason.
In another country, he would have resigned or being forced to resign but this is Ardern - bereft of any competent and capable ministers in her ranks. So she has to put up with a minister who thought it was alright to incite abuse against a pregnant woman.
Last edited by Balance; 13-07-2022 at 03:21 PM.
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13-07-2022, 03:22 PM
#2316
Originally Posted by Balance
Not true and you are still trying to spread further misinformation and deflect from Hipkins’ dastardly behaviour.
He released the information to incite abuse against Bellis and her partner - no other reason.
In another country, he would have resigned or being forced to resign but this is Ardern - bereft of any competent and capable ministers in her ranks. So she has to put up with a minister who thought it was alright to incite abuse against a pregnant woman.
OMG ! give it a rest.
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13-07-2022, 03:32 PM
#2317
Originally Posted by Blue Skies
OMG ! give it a rest.
You would love to sweep it under the carpet, wouldn’t you?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...YMPEXD3EP3SJE/
But aggravating his offence is that the Ardern Government knew that what Hipkins was saying about Bellis was not true.
Hipkins has now apologised to Bellis, but only after threats of defamation proceedings.
For five months, Hipkins has allowed the public to believe that Bellis had twice been offered government assistance to return home from Afghanistan but had turned it down — implying she was some kind of drama queen making a political point, rather than a mum-to-be wanting to give birth in her hometown of Christchurch rather than Kabul.
I believe the sequence of events smells of the public apology being cynically delayed until the Government was required to release official information revealing its lie and after Hipkins had been relieved of his Covid responsibilities in last week's Cabinet reshuffle.
Were Hipkins still Covid-19 Response Minister when it all became public on Wednesday, Ardern would have had to sack him. He still remains Minister of Education, Minister of Police, Leader of the House, fifth-ranked in Cabinet and Minister for the Public Service, making him head of the entire Wellington bureaucracy.
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13-07-2022, 05:42 PM
#2318
Originally Posted by Balance
How pathetic for you to come out to try & defend BS’s attempt at misinformation and then, deflection. Sad!
Try harder as the majority of NZers simply have had enough of the deflections and misinformation coming out of Ardern’s camp.
The irony - I write about Luxon and you suggest that I'm deflecting while you try to deflect to Hipkins.
What a joke - always unable to stick to a subject if you don't like it and deflect.
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13-07-2022, 05:43 PM
#2319
Originally Posted by Balance
You would love to sweep it under the carpet, wouldn’t you?
And more deflection.
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13-07-2022, 06:40 PM
#2320
Originally Posted by dobby41
And more deflection.
So Blue S and you are the same person?
Just as Blue S = Ardern = Spin :
Last edited by Balance; 15-07-2022 at 10:58 AM.
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