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10-08-2022, 06:18 AM
#2631
Originally Posted by Balance
Looks like the NP is not so unfazed now. Uffindell stood down pending investigations into his behaviour when at University. How long can it be put down to youthful indiscretions? How many more?
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Hard drinking arrogant lying bullies may be just about mandatory for British Tories, the NZ National Party is more squeamish though.
Last edited by Bjauck; 10-08-2022 at 06:30 AM.
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10-08-2022, 09:04 AM
#2632
Originally Posted by Balance
For god sake man, listen to this shocking interview with the young woman who was terrorised by Uffendell while flatting at Otago as a uni student, and then tell us its just a beat up & nothing compared to Mallard & Hipkins.
The link to the interview on Morning Report is halfway though the article.
Dismissing & minimising the trauma this young woman & the young boy suffered is contemptible.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...s-investigated
Last edited by Blue Skies; 10-08-2022 at 09:30 AM.
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10-08-2022, 12:58 PM
#2633
Uffindell is just another dodgy white, male, private-school educated National MP.
I feel sorry for Luxon - he wanted candidates with integrity and the party gave him Uffindell.
He sang Uffindell's praises because he wasn't told how dodgy he was.
He said that Uffindell would bring some intelligence to the National caucus.
Was Uffindell really the best that the Tauranga selection committee could muster? What were the other candidates like you wonder?
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10-08-2022, 01:28 PM
#2634
Originally Posted by Blue Skies
For god sake man, listen to this shocking interview with the young woman who was terrorised by Uffendell while flatting at Otago as a uni student, and then tell us its just a beat up & nothing compared to Mallard & Hipkins.
The link to the interview on Morning Report is halfway though the article.
Dismissing & minimising the trauma this young woman & the young boy suffered is contemptible.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...s-investigated
You are attempting to use the second incident of the flatmate (when Uffendell was 20 years old and in university) to bolster your argument - but my post #2630 was about him in King's and 16 years old.
Don't try that stunt with me - my post stands : "when you compare a 16 year old doing wrong vs Mallard & Hipkins doing scumbag deeds."
Hipkins using his ministerial position to leak private information and feed misinformation to incite abuse against a pregnant woman who was desperate to get back to NZ to give birth - is that not contemptible?
Mallard using Parliamentary privilege to falsely accuse a staffer of rape & destroy gis career (& potentially his livelihood) is not contemptible?
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10-08-2022, 01:41 PM
#2635
Originally Posted by dobby41
Uffindell is just another dodgy white, male, private-school educated National MP.
I feel sorry for Luxon - he wanted candidates with integrity and the party gave him Uffindell.
He sang Uffindell's praises because he wasn't told how dodgy he was.
He said that Uffindell would bring some intelligence to the National caucus.
Was Uffindell really the best that the Tauranga selection committee could muster? What were the other candidates like you wonder?
It just goes on and on.How many faulty national MPs with no moral compass is it now?
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10-08-2022, 01:53 PM
#2636
Originally Posted by Joshuatree
It just goes on and on.How many faulty national MPs with no moral compass is it now?
Not as many as the useless incompetent ministers Ardern has got - including the spin mistress.
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10-08-2022, 02:34 PM
#2637
National - the magic party.
It will be interesting to see how they will
- increase spending
- reduce taxes
- and reduce debt
all in one go.
Maybe they have their sums wrong again - as they did in 2020?
Or maybe they won't do all those things and stick with reducing taxes for the well off and decreasing spending?
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10-08-2022, 02:36 PM
#2638
Originally Posted by dobby41
Uffindell is just another dodgy white, male, private-school educated National MP.
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At least it is not a compulsory requirement. With the Greens at least one of the two co-leaders has to be a woman, and at least one has to be Maori (even if the available talent pool is thin at the time.)
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10-08-2022, 02:43 PM
#2639
Originally Posted by Balance
Not as many as the useless incompetent ministers Ardern has got - including the spin mistress.
This is a political thread. All of us will see the situation through our own political lens. I can't stop myself from trying to remember how to spell schadenfreude?
And that is a shame, because there are human tragedies here, and maybe deeper questions about redemption, how we can recognise when people have reformed/changed, and how at the same time we can firmly signal social disapproval of thr behavior in question.
I doubt that Sam can survive this as a politician, and his denial that he behaved abusively when at Uni seems pretty strongly contradicted by the evidence
That suggests he has yet to get over the first hurdle in understanding and changing his abusive pattern. Recognising and acknowledging the behavior and it's effects on other people is the first step.
Having people demonise him is no help. Neither is minimising and justifying his behavior.
Leave the politics of how the situation is to be dealt with to Luxon - poor bastard!
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10-08-2022, 02:58 PM
#2640
Originally Posted by Bjauck
At least it is not a compulsory requirement. With the Greens at least one of the two co-leaders has to be a woman, and at least one has to be Maori (even if the available talent pool is thin at the time.)
It happens so often in National you have to wonder if it is compulsory.
If not compulsory it does seem to be recommended based on results.
Luxon asks for people of integrity and 1st up is Uffindell
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