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    Bridges is a gonner…… mud sticks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soolaimon View Post
    Bridges is a gonner…… mud sticks.
    Maybe …..maybe not.

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    Is there any deatia in theri about the four women JLR has apparently harassed?

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    None at all. This is what caused his mental breakdown according to him, accusations but no details, no chance of defending himself; to get rid of him he said. He also said they said they can make it 15 women if they want to. All will be revealed hopefully about who is right and who isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    None at all. This is what caused his mental breakdown according to him, accusations but no details, no chance of defending himself; to get rid of him he said. He also said they said they can make it 15 women if they want to. All will be revealed hopefully about who is right and who isn't.
    "I was pushed out on medical leave and I have now recovered" - theres inconsistencies in that one statement. The rest of them are certainly career limiting. Any chance of him retaining Botany are nil. Sure hes lucid - but how much says is true remains to be seen.

    Edit. OK I've watched most of JLR's press conference. Quite clearly he has it in for Bridges. Much of what he says about Bridges poll ratings isnt news - National is no doubt managing that. JLR going rogue says more about him than Bridges or NAtional on that point.

    JLR also keeps saying Bridges has committed electoral fraud (out of the safety of Parliamentary Privilege as well). JLR ought to know that its fair enough to accuse bridges of fraud, but he cant say he has committed fraud. That's an offence and the verdict is decided by a judge on evidence presented. Not on JLR's opinion. JLR might want to spend a little less time swatting up on electoral fraud and start reading up on defamation law.
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    True to be sure.

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    Jeez it would be interesting living in the Ross household. His wife, Lucy Schwaner, is the one who got voted onto the Howick Local Board. She attended the first meeting a few weeks later and then when she wasn't voted in as Chair she threw her toys and quit the board. Caused a $100,000 by-election. Seems to be two people who have an over inflated view of their own abilities

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Ahh convicted already, typical,We will see. Lets not prejudge.
    Yeah, not like Judge Kavanaugh ay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    None at all. This is what caused his mental breakdown according to him, accusations but no details, no chance of defending himself; to get rid of him he said. He also said they said they can make it 15 women if they want to. All will be revealed hopefully about who is right and who isn't.
    Remember - this is JLR's version of events. Also worth noting that Bridges is an ex Crown Prosecutor. He is going to have a bit of an understanding of natural justice, evidence and likely outcome of a verdict when the light is shone on that evidence. I think it highly unlikely Bridges would have acted in the way alleged - especially in light of the Clare Curran, Mika Waiteri and Brett Kavanaugh meltdowns that were occurring around the same time. And given Paul Bennet was somehow involved as well - she also has a reasonably clear head on her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Yeah, not like Judge Kavanaugh ay.
    Hes innocent or guilty ay. My opinion is JK has lied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Hes innocent or guilty ay. My opinion is he has lied.
    Are you talking about Kavanaugh or JLR?

    Kavanaugh is innocent, Ford is guilty of lying. The evidence points to that, its not conclusive but the weight would support it.

    As for JLR or Soimon Bridges, I think JLR is going down in flames and is lying. Simon has handled this badly and needs to resign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    As for JLR or Soimon Bridges, I think JLR is going down in flames and is lying. Simon has handled this badly and needs to resign.
    As for JLR or Simon Bridges, I think Simon is going down in flames and is lying. JLR has handled this magnificently and has already resigned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baa_Baa View Post
    As for JLR or Simon Bridges, I think Simon is going down in flames and is lying. JLR has handled this magnificently and has already resigned.
    Well fair call, you are entitled to your opinion. Simon just needs to resign but I think he is too stupid to even contemplate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    Well fair call, you are entitled to your opinion. Simon just needs to resign but I think he is too stupid to even contemplate that.
    National moved into survival mode today. No way all those standing behind him actually support him, it was just concealing the knives behind his back. They've been here before and spent a long time in opposition as a result of in-party devision. I reckon it will be the end of Simon, and the patient calculating politician will emerge soon enough as the new leader. She might not be the most popular but she will galvanise the party and ensure a robust opposition and position going into the election. It may even test the notion that a populist always wins an election. Better someone with substance imho, galvanise the electorate. Meanwhile the current mis match in government will be laughing their heads off, a welcome respite from the real issues they face. National will act quickly imo to do the best thing for the party and revert to being effective opposition. With Bridges at the helm that can't happen. So he's a goner, end of. JLR will win the battle, but neither of them will win the war. Sionara babies.

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    Note who was standing behind bridges back ,the other applicants for the leadership . Which one is holding the proverbial knife. I think collins would be another big mistake for national , she has serious baggage (reading Dirty Politics by Nicky Hagar was a real eye opener) . Mitchell (to my recollection)won't confirm or deny he killed the enemy as a sniper in an army, def not a good look for leader here..
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    Guess who was playing this on his phone and chortling?

    https://youtu.be/kgeIINs1TrQ


    ​winston of course.

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    All we need is JLR to hand his evidence to the Police. They will investigate quickly - we know they can because they were pretty quick getting involved in politics when they cleared the PM's partner of various rumours. Leave it for the investigation and see what happens - or the release of the audio by JLR tomorrow.

    I think Bridges has done the right thing - JLR was clearly a cancer that needed to be found and cut out. If JLR wasnt happy with Bridges leadership there were options open to him to get change - he was the numbers man. The numbers were either for or against change at current time. He obviously has had a hissy fit over the numbers

    Weird distraction for a change

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    All this carry on should raise concerns about the (unhealthy) influence that the PRC is having on our elected officials
    “Just consider that maybe the probability of you being wrong is higher than you think.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    All this carry on should raise concerns about the (unhealthy) influence that the PRC is having on our elected officials
    Totally with you on this one. And that goes for Labour just as much as National. (sorry you said elected officials I just realised). It is a worry the influence that communist China is trying to exert on smaller nations around the globe. NZ is obviously not exempt.

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