National - FFS!

[Bill Smith]

Wynston..."I want a Provincial Growth Fund of $1,000,000."
Cindy........" That sounds fair...$1,000,00 per year it is."
Wynston..... "I was only after $1,000,00 for 3 years, but now that you are offering...."

[Blue Skies]

Obviously desperately not what some want to hear, & ignore if you like but Chris Luxon's competancy is getting savaged, left right & centre but actually mainly from the Right.

Bryce Edwards Political Roundup today, Chris Luxon's embarrassing coalition negotiations.

"Luxon is now being openly mocked & ridiculed by political commentators"
"Hooton paints a picture of National's negotiations as a failure, caused by Luxon's arrogance & hubris."
"The National Leader has astounded those involved in negotiations by his cackhandedness."
Luxon "entered talks without bothering to take his partners seriously"
"National insiders say Luxon is a talker rather than a listener...
- He never asked how ACT or NZF thought negotiations should proceed or what they wanted from them"
"Luxon & National's reputation is suffering"
"First impressions matter....right now there's no sense of urgency, nothings changing fast, there's no momentum"
"Luxon has failed to grasp the power NZF & ACT have in negotiations
"Seymour & Peters have outmanoeuvred Luxon"
Luxons poor negotiating skills...Luxon now looks like an inexperienced numpty"
"Does this suggest Luxon will prove to be a weak Prime Minister"
"the troubled negotiations should remind the public just how poorly Luxon has performed since becoming National leader"




https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/christ...CS4BO5PUPGCEA/

[777]

Do you expect people to waste their time reading your posts BS.

[jonu]

Obviously desperately not what some want to hear, & ignore if you like but Chris Luxon's competancy is getting savaged, left right & centre but actually mainly from the Right.

"Luxon is now being openly mocked & ridiculed by political commentators"
"Hooton paints a picture of National's negotiations as a failure, caused by Luxon's arrogance & hubris."
"The National Leader has astounded those involved in negotiations by his cackhandedness."
Luxon "entered talks without bothering to take his partners seriously"
"National insiders say Luxon is a talker rather than a listener"
He never asked how ACT or NZF thought negotiations should proceed or what they wanted from them"
"Luxon & National's reputation is suffering"
"First impressions matter....right now there's no sense of urgency, nothings changing fast, there's no momentum"
"Luxon has failed to grasp the power NZF & ACT have in negotiations
"Seymour & Peters have outmanoeuvred Luxon"
Luxons poor negotiating skills...Luxon now looks like an inexperienced numpty"
"Does this suggest Luxon will prove to be a weak Prime Minister"
"the troubled negotiations should remind the public just how poorly Luxon has performed since becoming National leader"




https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/christ...CS4BO5PUPGCEA/

Bollocks!
The MSM media are shredding their credibility on a daily basis. Tova O'Brien, who at one point was an Ardern fan girl...until the mean girl syndrome set in, manages to lower her credibility level with this ridiculous piece.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...m_medium=email

Relying on a Labour MP "close to negotiations in 2017" for commentary is a tad suspect for a start. She then goes on to "imagine" a bunch of scenarios, and then compares it to Ardern after she had formed a government, not the fawning, sell your grandmother of the negotiation period.

I know political commentators have column inches to fill, but sometimes dialing back on the hyperbole and engaging your brain (Tova!) is what is required.

[Blue Skies]

Bollocks!
The MSM media are shredding their credibility on a daily basis. Tova O'Brien, who at one point was an Ardern fan girl...until the mean girl syndrome set in, manages to lower her credibility level with this ridiculous piece.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...m_medium=email

Relying on a Labour MP "close to negotiations in 2017" for commentary is a tad suspect for a start. She then goes on to "imagine" a bunch of scenarios, and then compares it to Ardern after she had formed a government, not the fawning, sell your grandmother of the negotiation period.

I know political commentators have column inches to fill, but sometimes dialing back on the hyperbole and engaging your brain (Tova!) is what is required.

Forgot about Tova, you can add Tova & half a dozen or more other commentators to the scathing criticism from the ones mentioned by Bryce Edwards in his Political Roundup today.

Whats going to hurt most is he's being made to look weak & incompetent in the eyes of the public.

Chris Luxon was a pretty hopeless opposition leader, hopeless at holding the govt to account, but was excused as he was so inexperienced.
But he's not going to be excused by the voting public from scrutiny as a Prime Minister.
(He hasn't got much talent around him either, Goldsmith, Simeon Brown part of the negotiating team " !!! )

[jonu]

Forgot about Tova, you can add Tova & half a dozen or more other commentators to the scathing criticism from the ones mentioned by Bryce Edwards in his Political Roundup today.

Whats going to hurt most is he's being made to look weak & incompetent in the eyes of the public.

Chris Luxon was a pretty hopeless opposition leader, hopeless at holding the govt to account, but was excused as he was so inexperienced.
But he's not going to be excused by the voting public from scrutiny as a Prime Minister.
(He hasn't got much talent around him either, Goldsmith, Simeon Brown part of the negotiating team " !!! )

Uhhmmmm....Labour just got their arse kicked by this supposed incompetent. Is this an admission of how truly bad Labour were? Let's hear you defend Labour's record of incompetence, rather than speculate on how Luxon will do as PM. The public has decided that for you.

[nztx]

Uhhmmmm....Labour just got their arse kicked by this supposed incompetent. Is this an admission of how truly bad Labour were? Let's hear you defend Labour's record of incompetence, rather than speculate on how Luxon will do as PM. The public has decided that for you.

Strange - not a squeak out of the weak & incompetent Fill in Leader of the Lost Large Pot Hole Era supposedly on Caretaker Duty - is he asleep in the corner or arranging the catering to celebrate the expulsion of the down and out Comrades that havent fallen on their swords ?

[Blue Skies]

Uhhmmmm....Labour just got their arse kicked by this supposed incompetent. Is this an admission of how truly bad Labour were? Let's hear you defend Labour's record of incompetence, rather than speculate on how Luxon will do as PM. The public has decided that for you.

Hmm...I don't think that's correct, while Labour got its arse kicked, it wasn't by Luxon.
The numbers show while voters fled Labour, instead of going to National they flocked to the minor parties.
In fact it was National's second worst result since 2002
Instead of being able to form a 2 Party coalition with ACT as projected just 3 months out from the election, Luxon's now has to marshal a 3 party coalition with NZF.

Secondly, this is the National Party thread where we scrutinise Luxon & National's performance on their own merits, & we must be allowed to do that don't you agree?

[Logen Ninefingers]

The disingenuous headlines write themselves for the Left wing media. No matter what the deal is that gets eventually announced, it will be ‘Inexperienced Luxon Capitulates to Winston Peters’. The Left don’t care about the truth, they have their predetermined click-bait attack lines ready to go. The left wing media know that they have a ready made Lefty audience of the likes of red skies & red panda waiting expectantly for more of this tosh to be printed. People like O’Brien and Hooton are not real journalists, they are bought & paid for sensationalists and attack dogs.

[Patrick11]

Last time I looked national won the majority of the vote, I don't know why it's taking so long to form a government.