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    Quote Originally Posted by 777 View Post
    He was quite clear before he started that there wasn't going to be a any updates during the negotiations.
    And then he started giving them as the leaks started - sort of giving them.
    He realised that "everything is going great" wasn't working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    And then he started giving them as the leaks started - sort of giving them.
    He realised that "everything is going great" wasn't working.
    Well you will always interpret anything to suit your argument whether correct or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 777 View Post
    Well you will always interpret anything to suit your argument whether correct or not.
    As will you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    As will you!
    No, he will not and does not.

    So thanks for revealing yourself and reaffirming exactly the sort of regurgitating Labour shill you are.

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    In recent days there's been strong rumours of National insiders becoming increasingly frustrated with Luxon, ignoring calls for a ceasefire in Gaza, despite the pace of the indiscriminate slaughter of defenceless, starving, innocent children, women, the elderly, showing no signs of slowing. The scenes we are witnessing are genocide. Watching the news tonight, another UN school where women & children sought safety, bombed.

    Since Luxon unwilling to call for a ceasefire & after 5 weeks still unable to form a govt with no definite end in sight, a relief today to see Chris Hipkins unwilling to stay silent any longer calling for an urgent ceasefire on behalf of the Labour Party.

    Luxon must be fuming, he looks out of touch, indecisive, floundering, flatfooted, & diminished.

    5 weeks after results on election night which produced this coalition, he should have been able to form a govt, needed to be at APEC & should have had the backbone to call for a ceasefire in Gaza without asking MFAT or more discussions.

    Where's the promised action!

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    The three ringed circus continues with Winston the ring master with whip in hand.

    Throughout history it's proven again & again, those who choose the battle ground tend to win. Peters moved the negotiations from Wellington to Auckland by simply not turning up & both Luxon & Seymour with tail between the legs, swiftly chased after their elusive partner.

    Luxon made some huge mistakes even before negotiations began.
    Saying he didn't know Winston, was a mistake or it was a mistake not getting to know him.

    By not using the media is playing into Winston's hands. A party holding only 6% of the vote is holding the country & National to ransom.

    It's not like the nation doesn't know Winston's form in these situations & be sympathetic. The problem for Luxon is that Winston is far more charismatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    In recent days there's been strong rumours of National insiders becoming increasingly frustrated with Luxon, ignoring calls for a ceasefire in Gaza, despite the pace of the indiscriminate slaughter of defenceless, starving, innocent children, women, the elderly, showing no signs of slowing. The scenes we are witnessing are genocide. Watching the news tonight, another UN school where women & children sought safety, bombed.

    Since Luxon unwilling to call for a ceasefire & after 5 weeks still unable to form a govt with no definite end in sight, a relief today to see Chris Hipkins unwilling to stay silent any longer calling for an urgent ceasefire on behalf of the Labour Party.

    Luxon must be fuming, he looks out of touch, indecisive, floundering, flatfooted, & diminished.

    5 weeks after results on election night which produced this coalition, he should have been able to form a govt, needed to be at APEC & should have had the backbone to call for a ceasefire in Gaza without asking MFAT or more discussions.

    Where's the promised action!
    Garbage as usual from Blue Skies.

    Sore loser who prefers NZ to have a government formed quickly like Ardern selling her grandmother to Winston to screw NZers with the lust for power. Give her or Hipkins another chance and this time, they will sell their children to get into power.

    Meanwhile, Hipkins is trying to cover-up Labour's anti-Israel stance when Mahuta refused to condemn the Oct 7 massacre by the Hamas' terrorists of innocent civilians. He fools no-one except those indoctrinated by the one source of truth in the most transparent government ever under Ardern & Hipkins.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    In recent days there's been strong rumours of National insiders becoming increasingly frustrated with Luxon, ignoring calls for a ceasefire in Gaza, despite the pace of the indiscriminate slaughter of defenceless, starving, innocent children, women, the elderly, showing no signs of slowing. The scenes we are witnessing are genocide. Watching the news tonight, another UN school where women & children sought safety, bombed.

    Since Luxon unwilling to call for a ceasefire & after 5 weeks still unable to form a govt with no definite end in sight, a relief today to see Chris Hipkins unwilling to stay silent any longer calling for an urgent ceasefire on behalf of the Labour Party.

    Luxon must be fuming, he looks out of touch, indecisive, floundering, flatfooted, & diminished.

    5 weeks after results on election night which produced this coalition, he should have been able to form a govt, needed to be at APEC & should have had the backbone to call for a ceasefire in Gaza without asking MFAT or more discussions.

    Where's the promised action!
    Why would Luxon call for ceasefire? Hamas needs to be destroyed and there is only one way of doing that. Luxon right on the money for one. Chris Hipkins is a snivelling coward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    Why would Luxon call for ceasefire? Hamas needs to be destroyed and there is only one way of doing that. Luxon right on the money for one. Chris Hipkins is a snivelling coward.
    So that justifies the killing of now an estimated 20,000 civilians? More than half of those women & children?
    These are the actions of Israel you are condoning.

    If you persecute a millions of people for decades, control every aspect of their lives, don't allow them a political voice, continually encroach on Palestinian land and evict people from their homes, don't allow them to defend themselves against one of the most sophisticated & well funded militaries in the world, you only leave the persecuted one choice. Guerrilla war tactics.
    What Hamas did was horrific as is what Israel has been doing to the Palestinians for decades.

    The PLO negotiated peace and a defined border. This has never been honoured by Israel. Hamas are of Israel's own making. Gaza territory has a lot of similarities to the Warsaw ghetto of WWII.
    So has much of the propaganda from Israel trying dehumanize Palestinians.

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