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    Unfolding disaster watching Nikki Kaye being interviewed by Jack Tame on Q+A this morning (watch again on TVNZ on Demand, or Q+A on Facebook).
    But good on her for fronting when Muller, Boag, Walker all refused to be interviewed.

    Following interview, panelist Shane TePou points out next week could be even worse due Michael Woodhouse declaring he hadn't opened the emails he received from Boag & had not read them, but subsequently saying the contents of the emails he received from Boag were different from the emails Boag sent to Hamish Walker therefore Todd Muller was not lying when Muller said no when asked if any other National MP had been sent patient info by Boag.
    If he hadn't opened & read them, how did he know the contents were different?


    With questions even being raised now if it's too close to the election to replace Todd Muller (with Judith Collins), this is going to be an interesting next few weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    You needn't fear. It's unlikely he will win, and if he did you would be escaping a useless mob with a charismatic leader - which is worse then an excellent mob with a useless leader.
    Yes Labour have an exceptional leader with charisma - not sure about the Nats being an excellent lot I think thats a bit generous.

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    The Nats have wasted time with Bridges and Muller - bring on Crusher Collins!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    The Nats have wasted time with Bridges and Muller - bring on Crusher Collins!
    Yes you have to wonder why they chose Muller; Collins or even Mitchell seemed far better options. Muller doesn't offer anything, hard to think that he can turn it around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    You needn't fear. It's unlikely he will win, and if he did you would be escaping a useless mob with a charismatic leader - which is worse then an excellent mob with a useless leader.

    I used to think National were an excellent mob too, but after their brightest & smartest got completely screwed over on the Skycity deal,
    ignored all the scientific advice on meth contamination causing hundreds of people to be evicted from perfectly safe homes & costing home owners & landlords hundreds of thousand of dollars unnecessarily stripping out houses,
    sold off all those state house which they now say was a mistake & cost the taxpayer millions rehousing people in motels,
    the teacher shortage & disgraceful leaky school classrooms scandal, children in classrooms with water pouring down the walls when it rained.
    ignored the growing & dangerously long hospital waiting lists,
    continually denied there was a housing problem in Auckland when it was plainly obvious,
    ignored the huge discrepancy in treatment of cancer patients across NZ,
    the chronically underfunded Southern DHB & Dunedin hospital problems,
    the fiasco over the Transmission Gully project & the PPP's,
    the Christchurch Rebuild mess,
    the SERCO Prison debacle,
    the selling off of large significant NZ farmland to overseas interests,
    massive immigration without the infrastructure to support it,
    the shocking state of Middlemore & other hospitals
    etc,
    I started to have a few doubts about how competent their mob actually were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    The Nats have wasted time with Bridges and Muller - bring on Crusher Collins!
    That would cause a huge dilemma in the life of Pudding. I could not vote for National with Collins at the helm, and I could not vote for Labour with Twyford, Lees Galloway and others so high up their ladder. That's frightening. Best thing about this election is a likely rise in Act's vote, and hopefully the end of Winston Peters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    That would cause a huge dilemma in the life of Pudding. I could not vote for National with Collins at the helm, and I could not vote for Labour with Twyford, Lees Galloway and others so high up their ladder. That's frightening. Best thing about this election is a likely rise in Act's vote, and hopefully the end of Winston Peters.
    A senior family member, a life-long voter for the Nats, is in a dilemma at the moment. Although they like Ardern, they won’t vote Labour. It seems most likely they will jump ship to ACT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    A senior family member, a life-long voter for the Nats, is in a dilemma at the moment. Although they like Ardern, they won’t vote Labour. It seems most likely they will jump ship to ACT.
    That is interesting but no surprising. That rumbling is also prevalent in our household. Muller and National have become idiots and we will now not vote Nats, but we also cannot vote Labour so it is quite probable that Act get our vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    That is interesting but no surprising. That rumbling is also prevalent in our household. Muller and National have become idiots and we will now not vote Nats, but we also cannot vote Labour so it is quite probable that Act get our vote.
    Ditto, interesting other people thinking similarly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baa_Baa View Post
    Ditto, interesting other people thinking similarly
    Ditto to your ditto and I've heard the same from many people. It's going to be a very interesting election.

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