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    And now Nikki Kaye going & leaving politics ?
    Brownlie really?
    National,what are you doing ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiora View Post
    And now Nikki Kaye going & leaving politics ?
    Brownlie really?
    National,what are you doing ???
    Changing of the guard - National has not been effective for the last 2 years or have you not notice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiora View Post
    And now Nikki Kaye going & leaving politics ?
    Brownlie really?
    National,what are you doing ???
    Now it looks like Amy Adams is goneburger too.
    Never mind “gone by lunchtime”, it barely even breakfast time.

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    Who will replace them?
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    People wondering where Collins buys her Tasty cheese from.
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12348318

    Have a read, dobby41, and you are so far off beam with your comment that it can only point to one thing - the game has changed but Comrade Cindy & her bunch of incompetents have not.

    Judith Collins drew a distinction between a possible bubble with the Cook Islands and forming one with Australia.

    She said Australia had a "real problem", in reference to a new Covid-19 outbreak, and it was not safe to have a transtasman bubble.

    "It's all about safety."
    Finally they see reality.
    The border can't open until it is safe to do so - that is Labours stance.
    Labour has seperated out Aussie and Realm countries (Cooks and Nuie).
    Sounds like Crusher is up with Labours plan.
    Hopefully we won't see disingenuous 'let's open the border now' remarks from Nat when it isn't safe to do so.

    A change from the 'economy is more important than everything' tripe you float around without any idea how that would be achieved without us becoming like Victoria.
    Still believe that Aussie had the best approach? Vic (at least) is looking at the possibility of a full lockdown like our level 4.
    https://www.news.com.au/national/vic...b639976f5cd0f8

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiora View Post
    And now Nikki Kaye going & leaving politics ?
    Brownlie really?
    National,what are you doing ???
    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Changing of the guard - National has not been effective for the last 2 years or have you not notice?
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    Now it looks like Amy Adams is goneburger too.
    Never mind “gone by lunchtime”, it barely even breakfast time.
    Frightening, isn't it?

    Just wondering whether "the Crusher" did her numbers? She clearly loves crushing more than analyzing, leading or counting.

    Judith won't be able to increase the number of right wing votes for National (given they always had them anyway). She might however lose some of the more trigger happy elements of Nationals previous voter base to the new gun-lover party (aka ACT) and potentially Colin Craig's Zombie party ... they seem to be back as well.

    Less votes on the right for Judith.

    Nationals only chance to grow was to regain their base in the middle. Getting rid of any decent liberal politician in their rankes will hardly help with that.

    Less votes from the middle for Judith. Ouch.

    I am sure Judith is going to crush something, this is just who she is and what she does. Afraid however it will be the National support base. Lose-lose.
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    She is leader now though and that's what counts I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    People wondering where Collins buys her Tasty cheese from.

    ... cheers for lifting our spirits while watching the disintegration of the National Party!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
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    I am sure Judith is going to crush something, this is just who she is and what she does. Afraid however it will be the National support base. Lose-lose.
    Crushing things and populist-style slogans such as 'we want to take our country back" are the easy bits!

    I am not sure that tactic will be enough to win over enough voters here in NZ under our MMP system. It may have worked in the USA and the UK where Trump and the Conservative Party got into power with less than 50% of the popular vote.
    Last edited by Bjauck; 16-07-2020 at 08:54 AM.

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