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    It is safe to say neither those MPs nor Collins would ever have thought Collins would end up being the "safe pair of hands".
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?objectid=12348272&&ref=topbox

    There will be shifts of emphasis – the law and order rhetoric will ramp up again, and the farmers will be happy Collins will not be putting up with any of that "nonsense" on the left.

    By and large, leaders can be sorted by the rhetorical weapons they use for political surgery.

    Ardern uses a scalpel, a nuanced and tidy nipping and tucking, wielded with a smile.
    Bridges used his bare fists, thudding away to some effect until Covid-19 came along, but bruising his own knuckles in the process.
    Collins will be oiling up the chainsaw as we speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...er-leader.html

    She'll be in there forever lol. An electoral wipeout may actually be good for her as dissenters are voted out and she can rebuild.
    Or is she just keeping the seat warm for Chris Luxon?

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    where are her environmental policies? does removing the rma mean we can build a carpark through milford sounds..
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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...h-fighting-for
    Collins hasn’t just written off young middle-class lefties. She seems broadly uninterested in under-30-somethings as a whole.
    Normally, leaders at least pretend that youth voters are important, even if only to publicly lament how few of us actually vote. But Crusher isn’t trying to style herself as a good option for younger voters; she really just seems to be gunning for the support of older voters who are annoyed or confused (or both) by the changing times.
    Take her stance on refusing to engage on issues of diversity. One of the most defining traits of Millennials is a willingness to engage more on the topic of race. Among the young Left and the young Right (and even the centre) we all talk about issues like racism, diversity and systemic racial injustice. We may disagree on how to tackle these issues, but both sides acknowledge that they’re topical, relevant and worthy of debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moka View Post
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...h-fighting-for
    Collins hasn’t just written off young middle-class lefties. She seems broadly uninterested in under-30-somethings as a whole.
    Normally, leaders at least pretend that youth voters are important, even if only to publicly lament how few of us actually vote. But Crusher isn’t trying to style herself as a good option for younger voters; she really just seems to be gunning for the support of older voters who are annoyed or confused (or both) by the changing times.
    Take her stance on refusing to engage on issues of diversity. One of the most defining traits of Millennials is a willingness to engage more on the topic of race. Among the young Left and the young Right (and even the centre) we all talk about issues like racism, diversity and systemic racial injustice. We may disagree on how to tackle these issues, but both sides acknowledge that they’re topical, relevant and worthy of debate.
    I read the occasional piece from Verity Johnson...just to keep tabs on where the woke are currently concentrating their efforts.

    I suspect Collins will pride herself in being anti-woke....and as long as it is done in moderation, that is fine by me. What worries me internationally, is that it won't be done in moderation. Cultural Marxism's long march through the institutions is reaching its zenith and the Conservative fight back is starting. Scott Morrison partially tapped into this with his "Silent Australians".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    ..... the Conservative fight back is starting. Scott Morrison partially tapped into this with his "Silent Australians".
    I read Mr Jackson's 'racially divisive' post about Ms Collins and seriously wonder if he has misread the 'quiet Kiwi'.

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    Well done Left supporters:
    As we've seen on this thread they are so desperate they are going back to some old Nicki Hager stuff and now attacking National MPs billboards and caravans.
    Shameful.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12349103

    https://www.facebook.com/honnicksmit...4048395419225/

    Talk about dirty politics
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    Quote Originally Posted by artemis View Post
    I read Mr Jackson's 'racially divisive' post about Ms Collins and seriously wonder if he has misread the 'quiet Kiwi'.
    From my friends’ three under 30s children (Two in NZ & one in Oz) who voted Labour last election :

    ‘We hated John Key’s guts for locking us out of the property market. So we voted Labour with their Kiwibuild, capital gains tax and reduced immigration policies. Nothing has changed and things have got worse.’

    They have not said who they are going to vote for so it’s really up to the parties to convince voters like them who can offer the solution.

    Kiwibuild - less than 400 out of 16,000 promised. - less than 5%! This is the monumental scale of this government’s failure to deliver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Well done Left supporters:
    As we've seen on this thread they are so desperate they are going back to some old Nicki Hager stuff and now attacking National MPs billboards and caravans.
    Shameful.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12349103

    https://www.facebook.com/honnicksmit...4048395419225/
    They obviously are not heeding Comrade Cindy’s message to be kind?

    Watch for the backlash from the quiet kiwis. 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    They obviously are not heeding Comrade Cindy’s message to be kind?

    Watch for the backlash from the quiet kiwis. ��
    I think that's exactly what is going to happen. The "silent Kiwis" will stand up and vote.

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