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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Get your facts right before you post. We are not all woke pixie dusted like you & incapable of reading the news reports out there.

    Kiwibuild, anyone?

    Apologies Balance, I meant to say Collins saying their Internal polling had Labour near mid 40s instead of National, and National at 37%. (& dismissing the Reid Poll) .

    Have a nice day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Get your facts right before you post. We are not all woke pixie dusted like you & incapable of reading the news reports out there.

    Kiwibuild, anyone?
    Sigh ... this is a nasty thread - or is this just a broken record?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Apologies Balance, I meant to say Collins saying their Internal polling had Labour near mid 40s instead of National, and National at 37%. (& dismissing the Reid Poll) .

    Have a nice day.
    Wrong again. Try harder - take off the woke pixie dust from your eyes first.

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    Haha, bizarre Pixie dust claims from National's Housing spokesperson.
    It's her focus, her job to be informed for goodness sake. Gee what a competent bunch they are!


    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...-in-power.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Sigh ... this is a nasty thread - or is this just a broken record?
    It's a broken record but when someone (balance) doesn't have a rational argument he tends to repeat. De ja vu all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moka View Post
    Why favour housing over other forms of investment?

    Because housing is a basic need, not just an investment. Owning your own home has many benefits to the owner and to society in general, it provides more stability and security than renting, it fosters a sense of pride and a desire to be “houseproud” and to maintain and improve your property, when you retire you don’t need accommodation supplement = more government financial assistance. It encourages more independence which surely for all those people who complain about welfare dependency is a desirable outcome.
    Secure warm and dry shelter is the basic need. Owner occupation is one way this can be delivered. Just as renting and leasing could be too. NZ owner occupation rates have been falling. Raiding the pension fund will not replace introducing the reforms needed to provide affordable owner occupation for those for whom that is the best way to secure good shelter..

    We are no longer the 1960's. So for those people who do not have job security in the gig economy or for those who need to travel for work or change jobs and locations frequently for career progression, home ownership may not be possible or suitable or desirable. If you can withdraw money to get a house deposit, why shouldn't they be able to withdraw their kiwisaver money early to get money for a tenancy bond, to buy investments or a business just as those who want to buy a home can?

    People also age at different rates. For example for those who have had tough manual jobs, their bodies may have worn out earlier than white-collar professional bodies. So why shouldn't they be able to draw on any kiwisaver balance earlier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Haha, bizarre Pixie dust claims from National's Housing spokesperson.
    It's her focus, her job to be informed for goodness sake. Gee what a competent bunch they are!


    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...-in-power.html
    Clutching at straws - they have already admitted that they sold too many.
    They know they have lost already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    It's a broken record but when someone (balance) doesn't have a rational argument he tends to repeat. De ja vu all over again.
    Blue Skies has corrected his error as you can read - you need to dust the woke pixie bull dust from Comrade Cindy off your eyes, I think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Wrong again. Try harder - take off the woke pixie dust from your eyes first.

    FYI, it's on record, when referring to National's Internal Polling which she said is taken every week, Judith Collins replied on AM Show when told MP's had leaked figures of 36% & 37%, sometimes its (National) closer to 40%.

    The figures obviously move around a bit from week to week.

    It's an observation for goodness sake, is the combative language really necessary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Haha, bizarre Pixie dust claims from National's Housing spokesperson.
    It's her focus, her job to be informed for goodness sake. Gee what a competent bunch they are!


    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...-in-power.html
    Simple mathematics which the woke pixie dusted ones cannot comprehend :

    Opening stock + new stock - sold stock - transfer stock* = closing stock.

    * eg. - Housing NZ transferred 2,300 state houses for example to Tamaki Regeneration which are not counted anymore in state houses.

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