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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Winnie can marginalise Act in his agreement like he did with the greens.

    Dave can look forward to being a minister of statistics even with 15% votes while Winston can be finance minister on 6%. He'll like that sort of power play.
    Well you’ve just provided a prime example of how the tail can wag the dog, how a ‘Kingmaker’ with a lowly percentage of the total vote can extort a kings ransom. And indeed we saw it in 2017.

    So therefore what key ministerial roles will Te Pati Maori have in a LABGREETEPATI government? And perhaps we might see Marama Davidson as Minister of Finance, aye? And what policy platforms of Te Pati Maori and the Green (radicals) might the new government adopt?
    Or are you going to maintain this absurd fiction that Chipkins will simply bark the orders, and his would-be coalition partners will meekly fall into line….

    There are worse things out there than Winston Peters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    Well you’ve just provided a prime example of how the tail can wag the dog, how a ‘Kingmaker’ with a lowly percentage of the total vote can extort a kings ransom. And indeed we saw it in 2017.

    So therefore what key ministerial roles will Te Pati Maori have in a LABGREETEPATI government? And perhaps we might see Marama Davidson as Minister of Finance, aye? And what policy platforms of Te Pati Maori and the Green (radicals) might the new government adopt?
    Or are you going to maintain this absurd fiction that Chipkins will simply bark the orders, and his would-be coalition partners will meekly fall into line….

    There are worse things out there than Winston Peters.
    Labour’s Maori cabal, the real power in the current racist & divisive government, is keeping very quiet as their internal polling shows white middle class NZers have had a gutsful of the Maorification of NZ.

    They know that they need to hold onto to as many votes there though to stay in power.

    Post election, if Labour is back in power in a coalition of chaos, expect the Maorification agenda to intensify and speed up.

    Winston is looking to tap into that white middle class anger and fear.

    Scrapping the Waitangi Tribunal as NZF proposes is BS of course but it could very well swing enough votes to put NZF back into the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Labour’s Maori cabal, the real power in the current racist & divisive government, is keeping very quiet as their internal polling shows white middle class NZers have had a gutsful of the Maorification of NZ.

    They know that they need to hold onto to as many votes there though to stay in power.

    Post election, if Labour is back in power in a coalition of chaos, expect the Maorification agenda to intensify and speed up.

    Winston is looking to tap into that white middle class anger and fear.

    Scrapping the Waitangi Tribunal as NZF proposes is BS of course but it could very well swing enough votes to put NZF back into the game.
    Why does Panda disappear when I ask him perfectly reasonable questions that logically follow on from his own post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    Why does Panda disappear when I ask him perfectly reasonable questions that logically follow on from his own post?
    To be expected from a Labour shill - especially an ignorant and economic illiterate like panda who wanted Ryman to default on its debts with his hare brained proposal to use more debt to do a share buyback. Exactly what this Labour government is doing to NZ of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    Why does Panda disappear when I ask him perfectly reasonable questions that logically follow on from his own post?
    Panda is comprehensively deficient and as such she has to take a lead from some other source when replying. That takes time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    Why does Panda disappear when I ask him perfectly reasonable questions that logically follow on from his own post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Labour’s Maori cabal, the real power in the current racist & divisive government, is keeping very quiet as their internal polling shows white middle class NZers have had a gutsful of the Maorification of NZ.

    They know that they need to hold onto to as many votes there though to stay in power.

    Post election, if Labour is back in power in a coalition of chaos, expect the Maorification agenda to intensify and speed up.

    Winston is looking to tap into that white middle class anger and fear.

    Scrapping the Waitangi Tribunal as NZF proposes is BS of course but it could very well swing enough votes to put NZF back into the game.
    Two things do stand out to me these days:

    1/ The sheer level of cunning, manipulation and intense scrutiny of polls by the Labour Party. They push hard when they feel they can, but are always scenting the air for danger and will go into the foetal position as a whole organisation when they need to, then ‘go hard’ again as soon as danger has passed. They operate on a plugged-in level far ahead of all other parties. I find it duplicitous the amount of shape-shifting they do.

    2/ The amount of coordination between the parties of the Left and ‘our’ media. Faced with the obvious crime wave staring is all in the face, the media has moved quickly to run interference for Labour and defuse all National and ACT attack vectors. The deluge of articles ridiculing the idea of ‘getting tough on crime’ and stating that any probes at Labours weaknesses are just ‘playing politics in election year’ are obvious and desperate attempts to shape public opinion and spike Nationals guns. ‘We’ continue to be very poorly served by the rampant unchecked bias that is evident in our media. The Left believe that ‘the ends justify the means’ and they will continue to play dirty. The irony is that this is the behaviour they seek to accuse Luxon and Seymour of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    So therefore what key ministerial roles will Te Pati Maori have in a LABGREETEPATI government? And perhaps we might see Marama Davidson as Minister of Finance, aye? And what policy platforms of Te Pati Maori and the Green (radicals) might the new government adopt?
    I agree that a Lab-Gre-Pati govt would be a disaster, as would a Nat-Act-Pati govt should luxon decide to hold negotiations with them and break his promise.

    I wouldn't mind a Nat-Act-NZF govt.
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    The NZF candidates are rather quirky, a shortland street star & the hobson's pledge leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    I agree that a Lab-Gre-Pati govt would be a disaster, as would a Nat-Act-Pati govt should luxon decide to hold negotiations with them and break his promise.

    I wouldn't mind a Nat-Act-NZF govt.
    The idea of a Nat-Act-Pati government….it’s like a palatable fish flavoured ice-cream sundae.

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