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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    The right needs both charisma and ethnic diversity lets face it.

    When the left throws the "race" grenade into the camp over kianga ora evictions and law and order policies.. oh dear.
    'The right needs both charisma and ethnic diversity lets face it.'

    A voice from the Left telling the Right what it needs. 'Charisma and diversity'? Who could you be referring to?

    Anyway, you'll be grinning like a cheshire cat at the thought of erstwhile National and ACT supporters casting their vote for that saviour of the right, Winston Peters. Allowing LABGREETEPATI to coast through on the inside rail.

    Who do you think Winston is trying to take votes off I wonder?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/132...-peters-claims

    'New Zealand First leader Winston Peters made the claim that Māori are “not indigenous” while speaking at a public meeting in Nelson on Sunday.

    “Here’s the rub if you are Māori. We’re not indigenous,” Peters told his supporters.

    “We come from Hawai-iki. Where’s our Hawai-iki? We think it is in the Cook Islands. We think it’s in Rarotonga ... but we’re not from here. And you go back 5000 years, we came with our DNA from China. Not like 55,000 years in Australia.”'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Polls often understate Winnies support and given he's at 6% it would make sense for me to bag him currently if I was a labourite.
    If he's at 6% then he's already back*. So I'm sure you would be as pleased as punch to see Winston take votes off National and ACT.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...HE7FLKKLIXFFY/

    *Labour continues to trail National in a new political poll released today (8 September).
    Labour is on 27 per cent in the Taxpayers’ Union-Curia poll - no change from last month.
    The party is well behind National which is at 35 per cent, again unchanged.
    Act has risen one point to 14 per cent, the Greens are also up one to 13 per cent.
    Te Pāti Māori are on 3 per cent, which is no change from last month. NZ First is on 4 per cent, down two points from last month.
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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/electi...A2SY4KGOFETIQ/

    Election 2023: Winston Peters claims ‘Māori are not indigenous’ during Nelson meeting with NZ First supporters


    New Zealand First leader Winston Peters told supporters at a public meeting in Nelson on Sunday that Māori are “not indigenous”.

    “Here’s the rub if you are Māori. We’re not indigenous,” Peters claimed, according to a report by Stuff.

    “We come from Hawai-iki. Where’s our Hawai-iki? We think it is in the Cook Islands. We think it’s in Rarotonga, but we’re not from here.

    “And [if] you go back 5000 years, we came with our DNA from China.”

    When contacted by the Herald after the meeting, Peters said his tribe Ngāti Wai’s name translates to “people of the sea”, and its members came to Aotearoa about 900 years ago or longer.

    “We didn’t come 54,000 years ago, for example, like the Aboriginals in Australia,” the former deputy prime minister said.

    “If our story says we came from Hawai-iki or this place from the Pacific, then it means we’re not indigenous. I’m not trying to kid anybody, so why are we trying to kid each other?”

    Peters claimed the belief Māori were the indigenous people of New Zealand was a “misconstruct”.

    “Every tribe will have in its ancestry where it came from, and it’s not New Zealand,” he said. “Why are we lying to each other? We should be believing in truths and not myths.”


    Peters also told the crowd the National Party and the Māori Party in 2010 signed up for the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (Undrip).

    This declaration is an agreement which emphasises the rights of indigenous peoples to live in diginity and maintain and strengthen their own institutions, cultures and traditions. NZ First’s policy is to formally withdraw New Zealand from Undrip.

    Peters also attacked what he described as the “two hospital systems”, calling them a massive and total failure.

    One is Māori, which has been a massive failure, and the other one is a total failure as well,” he said, according to Stuff.


    “Te Whatu Ora, excuse me, I don’t want to speak the Māori language when I go to hospital. I want to be fixed up whether I am European or Māori.”

    In June, Newstalk ZB and the Herald revealed Te Whatu Ora - Health NZ has introduced an “Equity Adjustor Score”, which uses an algorithm to prioritise patients according to clinical priority, time spent on the waitlist, geographic location (isolated areas), deprivation level and ethnicity.

    In the ethnicity category, Māori and Pacific are top of the list, while European New Zealanders and other ethnicities are lower-ranked.

    Peters continued by claiming the Three Waters reforms are a programme designed “to transfer the water ownership from the heavens to one race in this country – Māori”.

    But Stuff reported he said no “ordinary Māori” believed water belonged to them - instead it was members of the “Māori elite” that were “ramming this down our throats”.

    There's Winnie poking the mythical beasts for all he can score out of things ..

    Let's see what that draws out of the splinter groups misfit fleas desperately clinging on to the mangy tail of Labour in hope of another free ride
    Last edited by nztx; 11-09-2023 at 03:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    If he's at 6% then he's already back*. So I'm sure you would be as pleased as punch to see Winston take votes off National and ACT.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...HE7FLKKLIXFFY/

    *Labour continues to trail National in a new political poll released today (8 September).
    Labour is on 27 per cent in the Taxpayers’ Union-Curia poll - no change from last month.
    The party is well behind National which is at 35 per cent, again unchanged.
    Act has risen one point to 14 per cent, the Greens are also up one to 13 per cent.
    Te Pāti Māori are on 3 per cent, which is no change from last month. NZ First is on 4 per cent, down two points from last month.
    48%/49% for NACT is dicey.. I'm sure you wouldn't want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    Winnie is likely taking votes from otherwise unelectable parties like Democracy NZ, Freedoms NZ and New conservatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    48%/49% for NACT is dicey.. I'm sure you wouldn't want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    Winnie is likely taking votes from otherwise unelectable parties like Democracy NZ, Freedoms NZ and New conservatives.
    Just whose side are you on??!! 😂

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    When there are dire straits you get the sultans of swing.
    Last edited by Getty; 11-09-2023 at 06:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    Just whose side are you on??!! 
    New Zealand's. It's in the name
    Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 11-09-2023 at 10:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    New Zealand's. It's in the name
    Yes, NZ First.
    “He’s putting NZ First everybody!”

    Can’t wait for the ‘We’ll All Be Billionaires’ party.
    “Hey, these guys are gonna make us all billionaires, it’s in the name!”

    Only in New Zealand.

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    Behold your favourite Minister for Racing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQJJQnhuHw0&t=131s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Behold your favourite Minister for Racing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQJJQnhuHw0&t=131s
    The more that people think that NZ First is past 5%, the more they will think that there’s no need to vote for Winston as he’s already back in.

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