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 Originally Posted by craic
Isn't it about time this guy shut up about the media and all and sundry? His major conspiracy theory is full on but his court case doesn't appear to name defendants and the judge is getting irritated and his lawyer claims that he has been very busy lately etc. I would like to know how an intelligent Lawyer couldn't work out his pension entitlement.
I think Winston leaked the story about his pension himself
“Just consider that maybe the probability of you being wrong is higher than you think.”
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Originally Posted by craic
. I would like to know how an intelligent Lawyer couldn't work out his pension entitlement.
This is all a nice distraction from this key point. It is inconceivable that in 2010 Peters did not know what superannuation he was signing up for. After all tens of thousands of ordinary New Zealanders do this every year.
And its inconceivable, that as an advocate for the "aged" constituency that Peters would not question the amount flowing into his bank account for his superannuation.
That's even aside for the moral question of him double dipping the tax payer with his parliamentary pay which includes sizeable contributions to the politicians superannuation scheme.
I guess we could feel sorry for him. He only owns 3 houses, got a directorship in Orewa Ltd and gets benefits from the Rawhiti Land Trust. He must be doing it hard.
And if we are to give him the benefit of the doubt how could we possibly have faith in him as deputy prime minister if he cant even comprehend a basic government form or reconcile his bank account.
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Originally Posted by minimoke
This is all a nice distraction from this key point. It is inconceivable that in 2010 Peters did not know what superannuation he was signing up for. After all tens of thousands of ordinary New Zealanders do this every year.
And its inconceivable, that as an advocate for the "aged" constituency that Peters would not question the amount flowing into his bank account for his superannuation.
That's even aside for the moral question of him double dipping the tax payer with his parliamentary pay which includes sizeable contributions to the politicians superannuation scheme.
I guess we could feel sorry for him. He only owns 3 houses, got a directorship in Orewa Ltd and gets benefits from the Rawhiti Land Trust. He must be doing it hard.
And if we are to give him the benefit of the doubt how could we possibly have faith in him as deputy prime minister if he cant even comprehend a basic government form or reconcile his bank account.
How true, and how many others have got off scot free for making numerous false declarations simply because they paid it back when asked? Probably none.
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WP off to North Korea on a small errand for Trump. Good luck to him. Hopefully he will be required over there for a year or two http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11944145
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Originally Posted by iceman
Hope he succeeds in his little mission
Sir Winston and Nobel Peace Price and Time Magazine Person of the Year all have a nice ring to them eh
“Just consider that maybe the probability of you being wrong is higher than you think.”
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Originally Posted by minimoke
This is all a nice distraction from this key point. It is inconceivable that in 2010 Peters did not know what superannuation he was signing up for. After all tens of thousands of ordinary New Zealanders do this every year.
And its inconceivable, that as an advocate for the "aged" constituency that Peters would not question the amount flowing into his bank account for his superannuation.
That's even aside for the moral question of him double dipping the tax payer with his parliamentary pay which includes sizeable contributions to the politicians superannuation scheme.
I guess we could feel sorry for him. He only owns 3 houses, got a directorship in Orewa Ltd and gets benefits from the Rawhiti Land Trust. He must be doing it hard.
And if we are to give him the benefit of the doubt how could we possibly have faith in him as deputy prime minister if he cant even comprehend a basic government form or reconcile his bank account.
He was overpaid along with 50000 or so others. AS for double dipping there is nothing morally wrong with that it is legal. Much the same as minimising your tax by any legal means possible Something you would agree with. National took no steps to increase tax or to alter the situation.
As for assets have a look at the list of MPs assets they have disclosed. Winston is a pauper compared with some. It is interesting how many trusts
some have disclosed.
westerly
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Originally Posted by westerly
He was overpaid along with 50000 or so others.
And that makes it right does it? Still worries me he cant even rconcile his own personal bank statements.
Originally Posted by westerly
AS for double dipping there is nothing morally wrong with that it is legal. Much the same as minimising your tax by any legal means possible Something you would agree with. National took no steps to increase tax or to alter the situation.
No its not the same at all. On one hand I try to minimise tax as its my money to start with so I figure I should do all I can to keep as much as possible. In winston's case it is also part of my money to start with and he figures he can take me for as much as he can
Originally Posted by westerly
As for assets have a look at the list of MPs assets they have disclosed. Winston is a pauper compared with some. It is interesting how many trusts
some have disclosed.
westerly
I know. The hypocrisy of Metria Turie owning a castle while justifying her lies to obtain additional benefits by fraud was lost on many - including those in the Green Party.
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Originally Posted by minimoke
I know. The hypocrisy of Metria Turie owning a castle while justifying her lies to obtain additional benefits by fraud was lost on many - including those in the Green Party.
She boarded an AKL-NPL flight we me a few weeks ago and literally only looked at the floor during both the boarding and for the duration of the flight itself. I think she must know she is not popular.
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Originally Posted by minimoke
And that makes it right does it? Still worries me he cant even rconcile his own personal bank statements.
No its not the same at all. On one hand I try to minimise tax as its my money to start with so I figure I should do all I can to keep as much as possible. In winston's case it is also part of my money to start with and he figures he can take me for as much as he can
I know. The hypocrisy of Metria Turie owning a castle while justifying her lies to obtain additional benefits by fraud was lost on many - including those in the Green Party.
Jeez, how much of it is your money? You must pay a large amount of tax.
Her "castle" was bought for $137000 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11195535
More untruths?
westerly
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Originally Posted by westerly
Never any untruths from me - but perhaps some from Met Tu. She has form after all.
In the register of assets she has declared she owns :"Castle (jointly owned), Dunedin"
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Originally Posted by westerly
What is not true?
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Winston looks like he's either ready to fall asleep on the spot, or fall off the perch altogether. Is Jacinda out-doing him in the whisky drinking?
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Originally Posted by fungus pudding
What is not true?
Depends how you define "castle". Dictionary definition; "a large fortified residential building" or the more common expression " my home is my castle"
westerly
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Originally Posted by westerly
Depends how you define "castle". Dictionary definition; "a large fortified residential building" or the more common expression " my home is my castle"
westerly
No it doesn't. Its how Met Tu described her asset. Maybe she was attempting to mislead?
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Originally Posted by westerly
Depends how you define "castle". Dictionary definition; "a large fortified residential building" or the more common expression " my home is my castle"
westerly
Which bit is not true ? Nothing to do with any definitions.
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A caller to talkback, in the early hours of the morning, made a very clear claim that we would hear very 'soon" that Winston Peters is sick. For whatever reason, she appeared certain of her facts but would not elaborate. While I wish ill to no man, I wonder at the implications of this, should it be true. Imagine the effect on NZ First? A bit like a legless spider.
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Originally Posted by craic
A caller to talkback, in the early hours of the morning, made a very clear claim that we would hear very 'soon" that Winston Peters is sick. For whatever reason, she appeared certain of her facts but would not elaborate. While I wish ill to no man, I wonder at the implications of this, should it be true. Imagine the effect on NZ First? A bit like a legless spider.
Have you had a look at him lately ? He looks like death warmed up and the last time I heard him speak he was struggling to breathe. That was his announcement of who he was appointing to lead the coalition. Will he last till the end of this term? I wouldn't put money on it.
Last edited by fungus pudding; 24-11-2017 at 11:49 AM.
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Originally Posted by fungus pudding
Have you had a look at him lately ? He looks like death warmed up and the last time I heard him speak he was struggling to breathe. That was his announcement of who he was appointing to lead the coalition. Will he last till the end of this term? I wouldn't put money on it.
Recall there was that story re his health pre election that was not published in mysterious circumstances
“Just consider that maybe the probability of you being wrong is higher than you think.”
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Winston? Id forgotten all about him.
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Originally Posted by minimoke
Winston? Id forgotten all about him.
Please don't. We still need him to lead the mine's re-entry.
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