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06-11-2023, 03:09 PM
#371
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...z-first-speech
'Kingmaker' Winston Peters blasts the media and 'left wing shills' in NZ First speech
So much love being shown for Media & Left Wing ...
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06-11-2023, 03:23 PM
#372
Is he a Kingmaker though?
There is no one else in the running.
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06-11-2023, 03:30 PM
#373
Originally Posted by 777
Is he a Kingmaker though?
There is no one else in the running.
Maybe Winston is busy trying to get hold of Chris Hipkins and whoever runs Te Pati?
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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06-11-2023, 03:35 PM
#374
Originally Posted by 777
Is he a Kingmaker though?
There is no one else in the running.
The Media must be disappointed .. perhaps they thought they were ?
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06-11-2023, 03:42 PM
#375
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Maybe Winston is busy trying to get hold of Chris Hipkins and whoever runs Te Pati?
Winnie would not work with Greens last time so it would be a waste of time.
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06-11-2023, 03:48 PM
#376
Originally Posted by 777
Winnie would not work with Greens last time so it would be a waste of time.
Why? Greenies last time happy to stand back and giving supply and confidence to Winston and Jacinda. They could do that again, no need for them to work with Winston. I guess ultimately they are anyway just an appendix of Labour. Where Labour goes there go they.
Te Pati, though might be more of a challenge, but given Winstons iwi affiliations it should be possible to solve that problem as well with a long enough hui and plenty of whisky
Last edited by BlackPeter; 06-11-2023 at 03:52 PM.
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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06-11-2023, 04:10 PM
#377
Originally Posted by 777
Is he a Kingmaker though?
There is no one else in the running.
Yes Winston's the kingmaker alright, Luxon may be in the pilots seat ready to take off, but he's 100% dependent on Winston to form a govt & not going anywhere without Winston's permission.
Winston being the political operator he is, knows the longer this drags out, the weaker he make Luxon look & the more he extracts from negotiations.
He's the minor of the 3 parties, but already has the media's most attention.
Look at the way the media scrum followed him through the airport without him uttering a single word - he's such an operator!
Chris & Amanda Luxon went to Winston's home with flowers, Seymour reached out to Winston by call & txt & was ignored ,
you'd be forgiven for thinking Winston & NZF was the main party instead of the minor of the 3.
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06-11-2023, 04:28 PM
#378
Originally Posted by Blue Skies
Yes Winston's the kingmaker alright, Luxon may be in the pilots seat ready to take off, but he's 100% dependent on Winston to form a govt & not going anywhere without Winston's permission.
Winston being the political operator he is, knows the longer this drags out, the weaker he make Luxon look & the more he extracts from negotiations.
He's the minor of the 3 parties, but already has the media's most attention.
Look at the way the media scrum followed him through the airport without him uttering a single word - he's such an operator!
Chris & Amanda Luxon went to Winston's home with flowers, Seymour reached out to Winston by call & txt & was ignored ,
you'd be forgiven for thinking Winston & NZF was the main party instead of the minor of the 3.
It's called MMP.
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06-11-2023, 04:48 PM
#379
Winston has given a recent interview where he said the coalition talks should only take days, not weeks as last time where he was dealing with 2 sides.{as opposed to 2 parties this time}
That's not unreasonable is it?
Considering most marriages are a lifetime of compromise.
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06-11-2023, 04:55 PM
#380
What bliss to have no government for the last 3 weeks or so after the Comrade Cindy years of non stop government interference and disasters.
Here’s to the negotiations lasting until Christmas.
Except for the media thrashing themselves for a story, any story, who else cares?
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