MMH - Marsden Maritime Holdings

[mondograss]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-...DHN2HI32DJBCM/

A couple of quotes:
"While the slip repair work is progressing, KiwiRail has also been upgrading the line between Whangārei and Kauri to take 18-tonne axle loads, including laying 20,000 new concrete sleepers and 13km of rail."

“Longer-term, the track upgrade work to Whangārei is also crucial for running more services if the rail spur to Marsden Point were to be built. KiwiRail is currently funded to purchase land needed for the spur and to undertake its detailed design.”

[whatsup]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-...DHN2HI32DJBCM/

A couple of quotes:
"While the slip repair work is progressing, KiwiRail has also been upgrading the line between Whangārei and Kauri to take 18-tonne axle loads, including laying 20,000 new concrete sleepers and 13km of rail."

“Longer-term, the track upgrade work to Whangārei is also crucial for running more services if the rail spur to Marsden Point were to be built. KiwiRail is currently funded to purchase land needed for the spur and to undertake its detailed design.”

So how long has this " slip " effected the railway line, ONE YEAR since Cyclone Gabrielle , and if so how would N Z function if the PoA was moved from Auckland to Marsden Point and both the rail line and the Brynderwyn road closed as it was during the cyclone, the old saying comes to mind, "if it ant broke dont fuc! it ".

[Sideshow Bob]

https://www.nzx.com/announcements/426757

Half year highlights:
• Underlying Earnings (Business Park and Marina Operations) of $1,008k, up 15.6% on prior comparative period
• Marina and Boatyard Revenue of $1,649k, up 20.8%
• Lease Revenue of $2,569k, up 9.8%
• Northport Share of Earnings of $4,288k, down 3.3%

[Aaron]

Wayne Brown lambasting "self-important" people in the herald this morning. They were worried he was going to tie up the Port with a 35 year lease leaving the waterfront inaccessible to the public.

It is funny Wayne feels that way as they are only going off the "Upper North Island Supply Change Strategy", I can't remember what self important person wrote that report? but I think it said the Ports of Auckland had a limited life and better use could be made of the land.

Anyway just further proof that whatsup is right and there will be no movement to Northport in our lifetime.

[whatsup]

IMHO the only reason that A C would offer a 35 year lease on the POA is that when the POA's lease comes to an end they wont renew it thereby forcing the owners to find another location and EVERY possible owner knows this.
The POA will be there in 100+ years time and fancy thinking of building a sports stadium on that land what were they thinking of, Eden Park/rugby/cricket only attracts 10-15,000 people on a good day/night !!

[Getty]

Stop talking sense whatsup.

It's much better to spend tens of millions on a debt funded stadium downtown, and there will be a 50000 plus crowd everytime, without any congestion.

Yeah right!

[whatsup]

Told you so, PoA stays where it is for ever , imho.

[ronaldson]

Told you so, PoA stays where it is for ever , imho.

Just like the probability of the Marsden point refinery being re-established. A big fat zero!

[Aaron]

I do not know the process but wouldn't the northland regional council assess the port expansion requests rather than 3 commissioners?

I had heard that the NRC was nearly dysfunctional with the loony greenies, mystical magical tangata whenua and other opposing hardliners not agreeing on anything, but do not know how true that is.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...MIOEJ52WD4BLU/

Independent commissioners Greg Hill (chairman), Hugh Leersnyder and Jade Wikaira refused all the consents sought.

However, the commissioners said they refused consent due to the scale and extent of the proposed reclamation as it stood.

That was due to significant adverse effects on cultural values of tāngata whenua and the loss of recreational values and public access to and along the coastal marine area, their decision said.

“We find that the adverse effects of the reclamation’s scale and extent, which results in the severance of the physical relationship to this cultural landscape, the beach, the dunes and the takutai moana (marine and coastal area), are significant and irreversible.”

What are the adverse effects on cultural values of tangata whenua, great navigators whose main form of transport besides shanks pony was the waka which requires a port.

"Severance of the physical landscape to the cultural landscape"???? where do they come up with this crap.

Who are these people and what is their background?

I am hoping Shane Jones can fast track this one. This would be less destructive than mining and drilling.

Although I do not have much faith that the fast track process won't eventually lead to some pretty large back handers to get a project across the line.

Disclaimer I am a shareholder in MMH and hope to benefit from the expansion of the port eventually despite whatsup continuing to s*it on my expectations and sadly he continues to be right about Auckland anyway.

[whatsup]

I do not know the process but wouldn't the northland regional council assess the port expansion requests rather than 3 commissioners?

I had heard that the NRC was nearly dysfunctional with the loony greenies, mystical magical tangata whenua and other opposing hardliners not agreeing on anything, but do not know how true that is.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...MIOEJ52WD4BLU/

Independent commissioners Greg Hill (chairman), Hugh Leersnyder and Jade Wikaira refused all the consents sought.

However, the commissioners said they refused consent due to the scale and extent of the proposed reclamation as it stood.

That was due to significant adverse effects on cultural values of tāngata whenua and the loss of recreational values and public access to and along the coastal marine area, their decision said.

“We find that the adverse effects of the reclamation’s scale and extent, which results in the severance of the physical relationship to this cultural landscape, the beach, the dunes and the takutai moana (marine and coastal area), are significant and irreversible.”

What are the adverse effects on cultural values of tangata whenua, great navigators whose main form of transport besides shanks pony was the waka which requires a port.

"Severance of the physical landscape to the cultural landscape"???? where do they come up with this crap.

Who are these people and what is their background?

I am hoping Shane Jones can fast track this one. This would be less destructive than mining and drilling.

Although I do not have much faith that the fast track process won't eventually lead to some pretty large back handers to get a project across the line.

Disclaimer I am a shareholder in MMH and hope to benefit from the expansion of the port eventually despite whatsup continuing to s*it on my expectations and sadly he continues to be right about Auckland anyway.

Aaron, Im all for progress but logic should always prevail ( as in the tunnel to Auckland airport , and many other dreams by dreamers ) !