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04-10-2019, 01:31 PM
#101
Hmm,double track railway lines, and also fully upgraded road from Auckland to Marsden Pt and Whangarei. That will be big price for the country's taxpayers.The major benefits will flow on to the Auckland waterfront property developers. And people who write reports,of course.
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04-10-2019, 04:18 PM
#102
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04-10-2019, 04:23 PM
#103
Originally Posted by airedale
Hmm,double track railway lines, and also fully upgraded road from Auckland to Marsden Pt and Whangarei. That will be big price for the country's taxpayers.The major benefits will flow on to the Auckland waterfront property developers. And people who write reports,of course.
It will be a /Govt/public /private funding for the roads and rail. We all know the roads in particular need that upgrade anyways. Start now whilst funding is getting cheaper.
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04-10-2019, 06:01 PM
#104
Originally Posted by Joshuatree
It will be a /Govt/public /private funding for the roads and rail. We all know the roads in particular need that upgrade anyways. Start now whilst funding is getting cheaper.
Shane Jones & NZ First still have over $2 billion in the PG Fund to spend.
Cannot think of a better way to cement in NZ First & Winston Peters in Northland than ‘investing’ in a legacy/transformative/ high profile project like Northland Port.
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04-10-2019, 06:08 PM
#105
Originally Posted by Joshuatree
It will be a /Govt/public /private funding for the roads and rail. We all know the roads in particular need that upgrade anyways. Start now whilst funding is getting cheaper.
Not if the greens have their way, anti roading has already put paid to the planned upgrade of the main highway north of Wellsford, this road upgrade is needed if there is to be any ability to increase any traffic let alone one that can cope with the current 923,000 containers that currently are landed in the PoA each year , ( 2553 containers each and every day > 106 per hour> 1.77 every minute, getting the full containers from Marsden Point south and you can double that in order to get the containers back to Marsden Point ) how is that going to do for N Zs carbon foot print for no real gain except gridlock !!!!
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04-10-2019, 06:22 PM
#106
Originally Posted by whatsup
Not if the greens have their way, anti roading has already put paid to the planned upgrade of the main highway north of Wellsford, this road upgrade is needed if there is to be any ability to increase any traffic let alone one that can cope with the current 923,000 containers that currently are landed in the PoA each year , ( 2553 containers each and every day > 106 per hour> 1.77 every minute, getting the full containers from Marsden Point south and you can double that in order to get the containers back to Marsden Point ) how is that going to do for N Zs carbon foot print for no real gain except gridlock !!!!
There is a study which was done (Citizens for Auckland I believe) which showed billions of dollars of benefits to Auckland by moving the container port & in doing so, freeing up the road system from the freight trucks clogging the road and jamming up Auckland’s transport infrastructure. Heaps of savings as well from reducing wear & tear of the roads.
John Key’s government decided it was politically too hard to push through - that’s my understanding from Northland Port.
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04-10-2019, 07:20 PM
#107
Originally Posted by Balance
Shane Jones & NZ First still have over $2 billion in the PG Fund to spend.
Cannot think of a better way to cement in NZ First & Winston Peters in Northland than ‘investing’ in a legacy/transformative/ high profile project like Northland Port.
I bet its not an accident that he has some money left.
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04-10-2019, 07:23 PM
#108
Originally Posted by Joshuatree
It will be a /Govt/public /private funding for the roads and rail. We all know the roads in particular need that upgrade anyways. Start now whilst funding is getting cheaper.
Yes....great post JT. And of course the Government need to kick the economy along with some big infrastructure projects.
Can you imagine Auckland with out the port down-town ? With some imaginative planning it could be sensational.
Transformative indeed.
Last edited by RTM; 05-10-2019 at 08:41 AM.
Reason: Typo
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04-10-2019, 08:56 PM
#109
Originally Posted by Balance
There is a study which was done (Citizens for Auckland I believe) which showed billions of dollars of benefits to Auckland by moving the container port & in doing so, freeing up the road system from the freight trucks clogging the road and jamming up Auckland’s transport infrastructure. Heaps of savings as well from reducing wear & tear of the roads.
John Key’s government decided it was politically too hard to push through - that’s my understanding from Northland Port.
Bal, That so called "study " was done and headed IMHO by a guy who at some stage was a North Auckland fish head, of course he would say that the PoA should be shifted to Marsden Point as all the benefit would then accrew to that port but did not say who would pay the $10,000,000,000 to do so , mentioned the Govt, yeh right !!!
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04-10-2019, 10:18 PM
#110
Originally Posted by whatsup
Bal, That so called "study " was done and headed IMHO by a guy who at some stage was a North Auckland fish head, of course he would say that the PoA should be shifted to Marsden Point as all the benefit would then accrew to that port but did not say who would pay the $10,000,000,000 to do so , mentioned the Govt, yeh right !!!
I wonder what people were saying when “we” tackled projects such as Manapouri Power Station ?
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