MMH - Marsden Maritime Holdings

[whatsup]

Rail is a great method of moving freight and would have the potential to reduce a lot of SH1 hgv traffic

Have you ever had a hard look at the state of the rail lines north of Auckland, go to Helensville, Maungaturoto or anywhere , that rail line was not meant to carry heavy container traffic.
Last year the PoA handled 900,000 + containers landed as well as exporting the same number, Marsden Port simply cannot handle that amount of heavy volume, END OF STORY !@!
So NZTA /NZRail in order for containers to fit through the tunnels ( as they didnt fit ) LOWERED the tracks leading into,inside and outside the tunnels !! another great piece of N Z engineering practice, so much for this countries world leading infrustructural engineering ideas, would only happen in NZ and we wonder why the roads, rail, bridges etc get washed away in a storm !!

[RTM]

So NZTA /NZRail in order for containers to fit through the tunnels ( as they didnt fit ) LOWERED the tracks leading into,inside and outside the tunnels !! another great piece of N Z engineering practice, so much for this countries world leading infrustructural engineering ideas, would only happen in NZ and we wonder why the roads, rail, bridges etc get washed away in a storm !!

I’m curious…what is the problem with lowering the tracks ?

[whatsup]

I’m curious…what is the problem with lowering the tracks ?

As well as undermining the tunnel itself they also have to rebuild the track both sides so as to realign it.
After this weekend in the north who would want to risk having the Marsden Point as a major N Z port with 900,000 + containers shifted from there down to Auckland by either road or rail when the PoA is perfectly acceptable, IF IT ANT BROKE DONT FUC$ It !!

[whatsup]

With the massive land slide in the Helensville-Warkworth area and it taking 10-12 weeks to clear who would ever contemplate now moving the PoA anywhere, this must surely be the end of the nightmare dream of W B's now.

[RTM]

With the massive land slide in the Helensville-Warkworth area and it taking 10-12 weeks to clear who would ever contemplate now moving the PoA anywhere, this must surely be the end of the nightmare dream of W B's now.

Yep, when it happens, will need to be supported by appropriate & robust infrastructure. That’s for sure.

[RTM]

As well as undermining the tunnel itself they also have to rebuild the track both sides so as to realign it. !!

As long as this is done well with appropriate engineering, this doesn’t really seem to be an issue.

[kiora]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...y+13+June+2023

[Marilyn Munroe]

I'm worried the rail spur line to Marsden Point is not included in recent National Party transport project announcements.

The need to pay for the proposed projects runs the danger of having the rail spur construction abandoned.

I can somewhat appreciate the Nationals' jaded view of the spur given that it was promoted by their ferocious rival, the New Zealand First Party, as well as their skepticism of the Labour Party's rail investment planning in light of former Labour Party finance minister Michael Cullen's ridiculously expensive purchase of Trans Rail from Toll Holdings.

The completion of the spur would be valuable and a reasonably inexpensive win, therefore I hope they go ahead with the spur if elected.

Boop boop de do
Marilyn

[SailorRob]

How much CASH does this company generate in relation to it's cap?

[Aaron]

How much CASH does this company generate in relation to it's cap?

$1.3billion for the extensions $300mill for the rail spur portion.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-...erity%E2%80%9D.

$10mill operating cashflow for MMH according to the 2022 annual report. Wouldn't the question be how much additional cash would be generated by a rail spur and the ability to land and transport containers and cars to Auckland. What about decongesting roads around the Ports of Auckland. Then there is the cost of a distribution centre in Auckland.

But then again it also might encourage industry in and around the Port. Wasn't there supply chain concerns with the Port of Auckland closing in the future and national interest.

Also isn't this a question for Kiwirail as I assume it would be Kiwirail who would make money from the additional traffic.

Thinking about comparable projects $880mill for the holiday highway between Puhoi and Warkworth. How much cash does this generate?? Not sure where you get the accounts for the toll road.

I assume we could expect a lower yield from long term infrastructure projects in the national interest.

Sadly our friend whatsup appears to be correct regarding any movement North for Freight.