MMH - Marsden Maritime Holdings

[whatsup]

Very very very thin demand for MMH now that their party is over IMO !!

[RTM]

Morning Whatsup...how are you today ? Hows your imagination?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12366422

"The solution for freight is to reduce our reliance on trucks. The proposal to move the Auckland port to Northport (and partly to Tauranga) has, at its heart, a plan to transfer up to 80 per cent of freight haulage to rail, preferably electric, with a re-established northern main trunk line that runs around the west of Auckland. With the port gone from the Waitematā, and an enormous new inland port, or freight hub, near Kumeu, that would mean drastically fewer trucks on the bridge and on every other part of the city's motorway network too.

There are so many economic, social, cultural and environmental objectives that resolves.

It's not going to be done inside 20 years. But when we're talking about what to do about damage from a truck blown over on the harbour bridge, the solutions need to be future-focused and big picture."

[whatsup]

Morning Whatsup...how are you today ? Hows your imagination?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12366422

"The solution for freight is to reduce our reliance on trucks. The proposal to move the Auckland port to Northport (and partly to Tauranga) has, at its heart, a plan to transfer up to 80 per cent of freight haulage to rail, preferably electric, with a re-established northern main trunk line that runs around the west of Auckland. With the port gone from the Waitematā, and an enormous new inland port, or freight hub, near Kumeu, that would mean drastically fewer trucks on the bridge and on every other part of the city's motorway network too.

There are so many economic, social, cultural and environmental objectives that resolves.

It's not going to be done inside 20 years. But when we're talking about what to do about damage from a truck blown over on the harbour bridge, the solutions need to be future-focused and big picture."

With Winny gone at the next election and MadMax as well there will be no one to drive any shift as the govt is not over a barrel now, no slush fund either.

[Getty]

Morning Whatsup...how are you today ? Hows your imagination?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12366422

"The solution for freight is to reduce our reliance on trucks. The proposal to move the Auckland port to Northport (and partly to Tauranga) has, at its heart, a plan to transfer up to 80 per cent of freight haulage to rail, preferably electric, with a re-established northern main trunk line that runs around the west of Auckland. With the port gone from the Waitematā, and an enormous new inland port, or freight hub, near Kumeu, that would mean drastically fewer trucks on the bridge and on every other part of the city's motorway network too.

There are so many economic, social, cultural and environmental objectives that resolves.

It's not going to be done inside 20 years. But when we're talking about what to do about damage from a truck blown over on the harbour bridge, the solutions need to be future-focused and big picture."

To shift the POA to Northland, is totally STUPID.
All the so called objectives you have mentioned, are solved by leaving POA exactly where it is.

Sea freight is the most efficient way of moving cargo, so why intercept a southbound ship on its way to the heart of Auckland, through an uncongested & maintanence free seaway, and instead transfer the cargo at Marsden point, via land to Auckland, and CREATE all the problems you are trying to overcome??
Even more DOPEY, would be to let a northbound ship bringing NZ coastal freight, sail straight past Auckland, to Marsden, then cart it back to Auckland, land based.

Use some common sense as to the NZ origin/destination of most cargo through POA.
Is it north of Takapuna, or Central and South, & south of Auckland?

The existing rail links from POA to those destinations, cause no road traffic disruption at all.

I can not believe how the cafe society, and the money go round people have been able to hijack this subject.

Who will end up paying for all this folly?
The Consumer.

If there is a case to shift POA, Marsden is not the answer.

Dr JPG.

If it aint broke , dont fix it, or you will go broke.

[Getty]

Imagine the extra gridlock & congestion in Auckland, if the road transport share of current freight that completely bypasses the Auckland harbour bridge, due to POA's location, was instead going/coming from north, while the bridge had its current issues.

Some people would never have made it to their latte.

Doesn't bear thinking about, does it?

[RTM]

Imagine the extra gridlock & congestion in Auckland, if the road transport share of current freight that completely bypasses the Auckland harbour bridge, due to POA's location, was instead going/coming from north, while the bridge had its current issues.

Some people would never have made it to their latte.

Doesn't bear thinking about, does it?

Maybe if you read the reports you would understand that RAIL is a huge part of the plan to move POA elsewhere.
More trucks on the harbour bridge are not part of that plan.
Would you like a link to them ?

[Getty]

Indeed rail is a huge part of the plan, as it would have to be, but there would still be a nett increase in road traffic movements north.

What those reports tend to overlook, is market forces,
The reports tend to be a convenient manipulation of the public's thoughts.

Send the link anyway, so others can read it.

[jonu]

Maybe if you read the reports you would understand that RAIL is a huge part of the plan to move POA elsewhere.
More trucks on the harbour bridge are not part of that plan.
Would you like a link to them ?

Getty doesn't get that there is a place called West Auckland that doesn't require the harbour bridge.

[RTM]

Indeed rail is a huge part of the plan, as it would have to be, but there would still be a nett increase in road traffic movements north.

What those reports tend to overlook, is market forces,
The reports tend to be a convenient manipulation of the public's thoughts.

Send the link anyway, so others can read it.

The links have been posted multiple times in this thread. I’ll dig them out again later on so you can catch up, for now we are off to Whangamumu...first regatta of the year.

[Getty]

Getty doesn't get that there is a place called West Auckland that doesn't require the harbour bridge.

I dont want to turn this into a tit for tat spat, but simply say that West Auckland copped all the overflow, due to Bridge damage.
The TV news graphically reported this.