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    Quote Originally Posted by RTM View Post
    Jeeze…..do you work for POA Whatsup ? It can't stay there...everyone seems to agree with that. Lets start planning now for where it needs to go.
    Optimising Tauranga and Marsden seems the logical place for it to go.
    What is your alternative ?
    Im just being honest, think, carbon , RMA, massive cost over runs , politics, unions, shoddy rail link, Greens roading policy, congestion, Maori land claim on the PoA land not one real positive reason to move except the MMH mafia and Jonies B S report !

    Show me ONE major N Z infrastructural work that has ever come in on time and on budget ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatsup View Post
    Im just being honest, think, carbon , RMA, massive cost over runs , politics, unions, shoddy rail link, Greens roading policy, congestion, Maori land claim on the PoA land not one real positive reason to move except the MMH mafia and Jonies B S report !

    Show me ONE major N Z infrastructural work that has ever come in on time and on budget ?
    Yep...those are all factors that will have to be worked through. That's why we need to start planning soon. But again...everyone seems to agree it can't stay where it is...what is your alternative ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTM View Post
    Yep...those are all factors that will have to be worked through. That's why we need to start planning soon. But again...everyone seems to agree it can't stay where it is...what is your alternative ?
    Leave it where it is, develop it to its full extent, theres something very exciting about having a major working port in the city, its exciting, vibrant, interesting and a major asset for a city such as we have, we have enough beaches and apartment buildings, those cranes and action of the port you have to admit is very exciting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTM View Post
    Yep...those are all factors that will have to be worked through. That's why we need to start planning soon. But again...everyone seems to agree it can't stay where it is...what is your alternative ?
    No alternative, RTM - all that POA fat cats want to do is hold Auckland hostage, keep the status quo and their high paying jobs forever.

    "There's another way to look at all this activity : POA is sinking so much cost into the port, the argument to walk away gets harder by the day." "It's a deliberate strategy - they're digging in instead of planning for the future."

    Second in the series of NZ Herald articles :

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12290275

    "Depends on whether we want to preserve or change".

    Well, majority of Aucklanders polled by Colmar Brunton survey want the port gone.

    They are not going to get away with their incompetent management of one of Auckland's prime asset - $6 billion of land for their own pockets.



    Go for it - Winston, Shane & NZ First! You are onto a huge vote winner!
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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12290275

    Some rather revealing stuff coming out about the way that POA has behaved to the detriment of Auckland and to New Zealand as a whole in the article - for example, when POA got their new cranes, Northport was interested in buying the old ones. Well, POA decided that's not in its interests so guess what it did? They broke the old cranes up and sold them for scrap!

    https://www.interest.co.nz/news/1014...company-saying

    Best summary yet of why POA in the city makes no sense has to go to Susan Krumdieck, transport & logistics expert from University of Canterbury :

    Auckland is a city which brings imports through its front gate to a downtown port and then, squeezes the imports onto congested roads to inland storage and distribution centers. Imports should be brought in through the back way - all efficient systems move the freight delivery around the service entrance.
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    "There is an enormous battle with vested interests ahead – we desperately need more financial support," a post on the Waterfront 2029 Facebook page said.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/117...ow-fundraising


    Ports of Auckland has taken to Twitter attacking the pro-move lobby group Waterfront 2029
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    Well, its Phil Goff's turn to be interviewed today in this fascinating drama of events....

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/progr...-will-be-moved

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    Quote Originally Posted by sb9 View Post
    Well, its Phil Goff's turn to be interviewed today in this fascinating drama of events....

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/progr...-will-be-moved
    Just listened to this...thanks for the link.
    Soooo....Phil agrees that the port has to be moved as well.
    What are the options ?
    Westcoast is not viable.
    Firth of Thames....No go there for many reasons.
    What other options are there ? Seems only one viable one to me. And what does he want ? Another damm report !
    Jeeze...what a negative pr__k. Just because he hasn't been at the lead ? Or because he has some kind of vested interest in POA ? Real power struggle going on here. He'd have lost my vote if I lived in A and had voted for him. Right there and then.
    Fascinating.

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    He just doesn’t want to lose the income. But of course they’d make a lot in rates if the land was developed, it would be interesting to crunch the numbers and see what the difference actually is. Can’t do much worse than the current dividend surely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTM View Post
    Just listened to this...thanks for the link.
    Soooo....Phil agrees that the port has to be moved as well.
    What are the options ?
    Westcoast is not viable.
    Firth of Thames....No go there for many reasons.
    What other options are there ? Seems only one viable one to me. And what does he want ? Another damm report !
    Jeeze...what a negative pr__k. Just because he hasn't been at the lead ? Or because he has some kind of vested interest in POA ? Real power struggle going on here. He'd have lost my vote if I lived in A and had voted for him. Right there and then.
    Fascinating.
    Numerous reports in 10 years with decisions deferred time and again, and he freaking wants another report?

    Why it has to be a political decision from Wellington where most of the infrastructure spending decisions are made, and taxpayers' funds are used to build and maintain the roads chewed up by the thousands of trucks freighting cars and containers from POA.

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