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    Default The Idea of a National/Green govt


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    It may be like seeing a unicorn for the first time but who knows I signed the above petition. #ConsiderOurVotes

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    Davidson in, co-leader Greens, no chance in hell now of a National coalition. Like National ever thought it likely or wanted it. End of this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baa_Baa View Post
    Davidson in, co-leader Greens, no chance in hell now of a National coalition. Like National ever thought it likely or wanted it. End of this thread.
    Agree with that Baa Baa. Davidson is a hard left socialist that is more interested in protecting beneficiaries than she is in the environment. We will see a new green movement forming in the political middle somewhere, as it should always have been.
    I would not be surprised if such a new movement made it to Parliament in 2020 or 2023 with TOP and the Greens in current form and NZF will both disappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Agree with that Baa Baa. Davidson is a hard left socialist that is more interested in protecting beneficiaries than she is in the environment. We will see a new green movement forming in the political middle somewhere, as it should always have been.
    I would not be surprised if such a new movement made it to Parliament in 2020 or 2023 with TOP and the Greens in current form and NZF will both disappear.
    TOP will never make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    TOP will never make it.
    I am not so sure !
    But where is EZ ? has he totally given up on his $15B hole Government !?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGR367 View Post
    That's ridiculous. National is so far removed from Greens social and economic pipe-dream socialist policies there would not be enough common ground to last them till morning tea. Bright red is the new green.

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    On Kiwiblog yesterday - What could the Greens get if they went with National not Winston? Possible accommodations in exchange for abstaining on confidence and supply. Some good discussion but strongly suggest stop reading posts made after about 6pm yesterday, at which point posts deteriorated rapidly.

    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/09/w...t_winston.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    They certainly will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    There was me thinking their job was to be champions for the environment. And how better to do that than have a meaningful seat in Government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    There was me thinking their job was to be champions for the environment. And how better to do that than have a meaningful seat in Government.
    The Greens are not savvy enough to realise that going with National would give them a real voice for once in their long history, they would rather pay lip service in a 3 way coalition and stick to their pig-headedness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by couta1 View Post
    The Greens are not savvy enough to realise that going with National would give them a real voice for once in their long history, they would rather pay lip service in a 3 way coalition and stick to their pig-headedness.
    Shaw is the most pig-headedness of them all

    Real disappointment is that guy - he seemed to be the one to make Green a real party and has blown it conpletely

    They'll moan and winge about this and about that for another three years and nobody will listen .... and hopefully reflect on the lost opportunity (even if it did mean selling their soul)
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Shaw is the most pig-headedness of them all

    Real disappointment is that guy - he seemed to be the one to make Green a real party and has blown it conpletely

    They'll moan and winge about this and about that for another three years and nobody will listen .... and hopefully reflect on the lost opportunity (even if it did mean selling their soul)
    Sad really isn't it.

    I think FWIW, that we might all accomodate a voice for the environment in either the left or the right, but these idealogical tossers in the Greens don't seem to have any clue about how to get into Government as a minor party, in order to put into effect the essence of their ideals!

    I heard today a summary of all the things they've managed to accomplish whilst not in Government, and it's fairly impressive but not overly convincing or inspiring, you'd think they would FINALLY decide that conceding some of their idealism to hold a seat in power, albeit a minor party and tenuous, would further their ideals moreso than being in opposition or worse on the back benches.

    Some just persist with cutting ones nose off to spite ones face, this sums up the Greens IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Shaw is the most pig-headedness of them all
    I think James Shaw is wonderful. He is a principled man who is committed to shifting the wealth from the haves to the have-nots. And totally dedicated to ensuring the dream of being carbon free remains a dream and if our rivers ever needed a loud voice his will be much louder in offices that used to be filled with more people. Parliament I think needs Bridesmaids and there is no-one more practiced at this than James and his Crew.

    And isn't it wonderful that Met Tu can spend some time in her castle in Dunedin. Frolicking around a big old stone building might be good practice for whatever her future may bring her.

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