There was me thinking their job was to be champions for the environment. And how better to do that than have a meaningful seat in Government.
The Greens are not savvy enough to realise that going with National would give them a real voice for once in their long history, they would rather pay lip service in a 3 way coalition and stick to their pig-headedness.
The Greens are not savvy enough to realise that going with National would give them a real voice for once in their long history, they would rather pay lip service in a 3 way coalition and stick to their pig-headedness.
Shaw is the most pig-headedness of them all
Real disappointment is that guy - he seemed to be the one to make Green a real party and has blown it conpletely
They'll moan and winge about this and about that for another three years and nobody will listen .... and hopefully reflect on the lost opportunity (even if it did mean selling their soul)
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
Real disappointment is that guy - he seemed to be the one to make Green a real party and has blown it conpletely
They'll moan and winge about this and about that for another three years and nobody will listen .... and hopefully reflect on the lost opportunity (even if it did mean selling their soul)
Sad really isn't it.
I think FWIW, that we might all accomodate a voice for the environment in either the left or the right, but these idealogical tossers in the Greens don't seem to have any clue about how to get into Government as a minor party, in order to put into effect the essence of their ideals!
I heard today a summary of all the things they've managed to accomplish whilst not in Government, and it's fairly impressive but not overly convincing or inspiring, you'd think they would FINALLY decide that conceding some of their idealism to hold a seat in power, albeit a minor party and tenuous, would further their ideals moreso than being in opposition or worse on the back benches.
Some just persist with cutting ones nose off to spite ones face, this sums up the Greens IMHO.
I think James Shaw is wonderful. He is a principled man who is committed to shifting the wealth from the haves to the have-nots. And totally dedicated to ensuring the dream of being carbon free remains a dream and if our rivers ever needed a loud voice his will be much louder in offices that used to be filled with more people. Parliament I think needs Bridesmaids and there is no-one more practiced at this than James and his Crew.
And isn't it wonderful that Met Tu can spend some time in her castle in Dunedin. Frolicking around a big old stone building might be good practice for whatever her future may bring her.
Lol sorry but no matter what you or the media or national stooges etc say or think or summarise we will just have to wait on winston first ;that sums it up really.
Lol sorry but no matter what you or the media or national stooges etc say or think or summarise we will just have to wait on winston first ;that sums it up really.
I feel for those silly Winston first MPs sitting around all day talking about Allah knows what, pretending to decide who will be the government, when Winston knows already, but the miserable old bathplug won't tell them.
Greens almost certainly will get anther seat; if Labour do too that will certainly be a boost for their chances. A one seat majority wouldn't cut it.
Lets assume you are right. That would give a Labour (46 seats) / Green (8 seats) / NZ First (9 Seats) coalition of 63 seats. National (56 seats) and ACT (1 Seat) would be in opposition with 57 seats. Giving a the Coalition a 3 seat buffer.
This means for the coalition to work there cant be any more than 2 fruitloops (oops I mean people with integrity and a conscience) in the coalition who are a risk of crossing the house. Bwahahaha
Originally Posted by Joshuatree
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