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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Greens just gifted National their questions during Question Time. That will put a dampen on Green MP exposure. Must be some quid pro quo in there somewhere. Labour / NZ First ought to be a bit worried
    Mr Shaw said Greens are not keen on patsy questions. Not surprising - he looked like a dork when answering a series of patsies on the census.

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    I don't think we should be reading anything into the Greens gifting their questions to National. They have a history of criticising the "patsy" questions and would look silly to then use it themselves as soon as they have an opportunity to. I give them credit for trying to look credible, which they're probably desperate for as they hardly get any media exposure under this Government setup !!
    Labour and Winnie will be fuming they did this

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Labour and Winnie will be fuming they did this
    No no no, Ian Lees Galloway was saying Labour were pleased with this....

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I don't think we should be reading anything into the Greens gifting their questions to National. They have a history of criticising the "patsy" questions and would look silly to then use it themselves as soon as they have an opportunity to. I give them credit for trying to look credible, which they're probably desperate for as they hardly get any media exposure under this Government setup !!
    Labour and Winnie will be fuming they did this
    I dont recall any rule that says a question has to be a "patsy". What they have done, if nothing else, is loosing an opportunity of media exposure which will be given to National during Question Time.

    Perhaps this is also a step where the Greens distance themselves from the mess that Labour is currently in with covering up the sexual abuse during the Labour Camp. Greens have been as silent as Tamiti Coffey.

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    Agree there are no rules that say they have to be patsy, but majority of them always are. I agree with you about the Greens losing an opportunity to use this for furthering their profile, but understand their reasoning for it. I hope National shows some fairness and appreciation and uses many of these questions in the environment arena.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Agree there are no rules that say they have to be patsy, but majority of them always are. I agree with you about the Greens losing an opportunity to use this for furthering their profile, but understand their reasoning for it. I hope National shows some fairness and appreciation and uses many of these questions in the environment arena.
    I am still at a loss with the reasoning. Also no rule that I know of that says if you have questions you must use them.

    We have Greens gifting national questions. Labour gifting National an undercover scandal. What has NZ First got up its sleeve to share in the festivities ( I dont think Ron Marks use of helicopters really counts)

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    I am still at a loss with the reasoning.
    It's known as Kermit logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    I am still at a loss with the reasoning.
    I assume it is caused by internal rumblings with week after week of internal polling showing them below 5% and making no progress in grabbing media headlines. Went from 14 to 8 MPs last election due to Labour's success and the more popular Labour is the less The Greens get and vice versa. They know this and know they need to differentiate or die.
    So they are trying to get any publicity they can get about doing what they said they'd do and this is an example of something they constantly criticised in opposition.

    They are in a hopeless situation really with this coalition setup. Winston sure knew what he was doing there !!

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    For as long as this man hating Green Fruit Loop is around I'm hoping there is no National Green coalition. But more proof that the Ministry of Women's affairs isn't required and Ministers here get there via promotion to their highest level of incompetence. Her attempt at brainwashing children doesn't wash with me and I'm only thankful my kids have moved on from Cobham - saves me writing some terse letters to the Head and Board chair. Genter needs to realise there is only one requirement to be on a Board - and that is "competence". I guess she gave the kids one lesson - it is possible to make a racist, ageist and sexist statement all in one sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    For as long as this man hating Green Fruit Loop is around I'm hoping there is no National Green coalition. But more proof that the Ministry of Women's affairs isn't required and Ministers here get there via promotion to their highest level of incompetence. Her attempt at brainwashing children doesn't wash with me and I'm only thankful my kids have moved on from Cobham - saves me writing some terse letters to the Head and Board chair. Genter needs to realise there is only one requirement to be on a Board - and that is "competence". I guess she gave the kids one lesson - it is possible to make a racist, ageist and sexist statement all in one sentence.

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    Is Logie still in the Kermits? She was the world champion man hater. Beats Genter hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Is Logie still in the Kermits? She was the world champion man hater. Beats Genter hands down.
    By the looks of it she is. That is one man hating bunch there, and I include the 2 Beta males (if they can be called male)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Is Logie still in the Kermits? She was the world champion man hater. Beats Genter hands down.
    She's still lurking but yet to put here head up and come up with ideas to solve domestic violence and sexual abuse. I can imagine she in currently in a mental tail spin at the moment trying to process a Man (Obama) suggesting women should rule the world for a couple of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    By the looks of it she is. That is one man hating bunch there, and I include the 2 Beta males (if they can be called male)

    https://www.parliament.nz/en/mps-and...-seating-plan/
    The sad thing is that this motley lot are disguised as an environmental party, which is sadly lacking in NZ in true form
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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    For as long as this man hating Green Fruit Loop is around I'm hoping there is no National Green coalition. But more proof that the Ministry of Women's affairs isn't required and Ministers here get there via promotion to their highest level of incompetence. Her attempt at brainwashing children doesn't wash with me and I'm only thankful my kids have moved on from Cobham - saves me writing some terse letters to the Head and Board chair. Genter needs to realise there is only one requirement to be on a Board - and that is "competence". I guess she gave the kids one lesson - it is possible to make a racist, ageist and sexist statement all in one sentence.

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    Man-hater are you feeling threatened, im not.

    Here is another "man hater" for you.

    Obama and the wāhine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Man-hater are you feeling threatened, im not.

    Here is another "man hater" for you.

    Obama and the wāhine
    No I dont feel threatened as I stand by my abilities. And also my ability to put that forward when the need arises.

    But I do have empathy (that's the feminine side of me) for men over 60 who Genter labels "old" when she has no idea of what they are doing (possibly a whole lot more than their "younger" counterparts), for "white" people ( I know from experience a comment like that if used in the context of another race would get you served with a ban off this site) who are inferred as incompetent simply due to the colour of their skin; and for men as a whole who are still struggling with David Cunliffes "I am sorry for being a Man" as if being male is somehow offensive.

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    The idea of a national green coalition is now a little more appealing given old man hater Julie Ann Genter got well and truly burnt in the green co leader race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    The idea of a national green coalition is now a little more appealing given old man hater Julie Ann Genter got well and truly burnt in the green co leader race.
    Yes. It will be interesting to see which 'co-leader' emerges as the 'leader of the co-leaders'. My pick is Davidson will blow James Shaw into the background.
    And where's the gender balance gone in the Greens? Aside from the co-leader nonsense the party is 75% women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    The idea of a national green coalition is now a little more appealing given old man hater Julie Ann Genter got well and truly burnt in the green co leader race.
    Ms Davidson is hard hard left, envronmentalist not so much, so not a good fit with National. Since the vote for her was a landslide, do we assume that the membership is also hard hard left? (Now the old white environmentalist men have gone.)

    I wonder if the 'old white men' publicity hurt Ms Genter's chances. If so that is very weird since it likely to be a view shared by many members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemis View Post
    Ms Davidson is hard hard left, envronmentalist not so much, so not a good fit with National............
    But it does mean that any increase in votes for the Kermits will come from Labour and Winston First, which would cause Winston first to disappear. National will surely be happy with the new Green leader, even if Labour aren't too chuffed.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=12027466
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    Oh dear. Labour really are upset with the new half-leader of the greens. Could be some fun and entertainment coming up for us.

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