View Poll Results: Which stock is higher 12 months from now ?
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Originally Posted by couta1
If the poll had have been about which company has the best management, it would have been interesting, my vote would go to MPG in that case.
You think the management of MPG is better than OCA?
The number of votes against the chairman (alone) would indicate not too many people think highly of MPG's management
Anyhow lets not turn this solely an MPG (or OCA) thread
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Originally Posted by hardt
OCA will have no real trouble meeting their NPAT forecast for FY18...
However once that report drops, it becomes another ticker in a rather low valuation sector of the market.
OCA has a very FY18 centric pipeline, there is little info on the timeline for FY19 construction and sales commencement.
It will not be given a premium to the market... 13-16 times forward earnings seems to be most likely.
Forward Underlying PE |
FY18E |
FY19E |
Notes to FY19 |
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RYM - $9.50 |
25x |
20x |
Pipeline heavily focused on FY19 - Huge pipeline indeed |
SUM - $5.19 |
14.5x |
12.8x |
Steady pipeline |
ARV - $1.24 |
16.3x |
13.7x |
Pipeline focused on FY19 - Relying on resale's for FY18 |
OCA - $1.03 |
14.1x |
13.8x |
Relying on resale's for FY19 ( developments in planning and construction stages ) |
MET - $6.00 |
17x |
15.8x |
Steady pipeline |
As for MPG, the construction sector has been growing revenues very well, albeit with terrible marginal contraction... the construction cycle is not yet over and their may be some hope left.
MPG could return a 20-50% gain by the end of the year with any sign of strength, whereas maximum returns on OCA from current levels would be 20-30%
Unlikely performer, but a higher potential return in MPG for the next 12 months on the market, far less risk with OCA and a more stable outlook.
Voted for OCA
Nice summary mate. On your numbers the cheapest stock there SUM at 12.8 x FY19's earnings has the highest proven CAGR.
Winner - Was just a bit of light hearted fun mate seeing as they happened to be at exactly the same price yesterday afternoon. Beagles can be silly dog's, when they're bored they play with any toy they can find
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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MPG doing terrible but the favourite in this race is doing even worse by the looks of it
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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Originally Posted by winner69
MPG doing terrible but the favourite in this race is doing even worse by the looks of it
Both stocks dogged by unfavorable sector sentiment at present.
Crossed my mind to do another silly poll this afternoon. THL and SUM both closed at $4.92. Didn't start one because I can't decide which has better prospects in the year ahead lol. Just as well I have a bob or three on each. Maybe they'll both do really well and I'll get the quinella
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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Game back on with these two both closed at 94 cps. SUM and THL more or less in lock step too.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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Game still on both at 97 cents. Spooky how these two are more or less tracking each other yet one listed for ~ half the IPO price of the other.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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Originally Posted by Beagle
Game still on both at 97 cents. Spooky how these two are more or less tracking each other yet one listed for ~ half the IPO price of the other.
Even more spooky given one has very sound fundamentals while the other... well not so much.
Maybe OCA is buying glass of MPG and MPG is allowing the highly (some ridiculously so) paid directors and/or managers etc to retire early into an OCA village?
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One pays a much better dividend too
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Originally Posted by Beagle
Game still on both at 97 cents. Spooky how these two are more or less tracking each other yet one listed for ~ half the IPO price of the other.
Just over a month later and how things have changed... one has gone north, the other south
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