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    Quote Originally Posted by stoploss View Post
    Sad thing is as needy as the Pacific Islanders are after cyclones etc , there are plenty living here struggling day to day ….sad Labour don't see fit to put our own backyard in order first .
    Its a tough one. Here we have NZ full of povurdy, homeless people, people who cant afford a house, sick people who cant afford doctors visits and old people freezing to death in winter. Maybe rather than giving students a free year of partying that money could have been given to the Islands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Timing was given - it was very clear the money had been budgeted for the 2018/19 fiscal year. That obviously means the winter of 2018

    To achieve this, in part Labour obviously had to increase the revenue side of the budget which meant putting my taxes up from 1 April 2018 from what they would otherwise have been
    Maybe a technicality but the government FY begins July 1st, so was there budget FY17/18 for subsidies to begin, I doubt it? Or was/it always aligned to budget FY18/19 beginning July.

    Strangely, mothers Super payments went up a few dollars the past three fornights. Energy subsidy kicking in or something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baa_Baa View Post
    Maybe a technicality but the government FY begins July 1st, so was there budget FY17/18 for subsidies to begin, I doubt it? Or was/it always aligned to budget FY18/19 beginning July.

    Strangely, mothers Super payments went up a few dollars the past three fornights. Energy subsidy kicking in or something else?
    Super adjusts first payment every April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoploss View Post
    Sad thing is as needy as the Pacific Islanders are after cyclones etc , there are plenty living here struggling day to day ….sad Labour don't see fit to put our own backyard in order first .
    Agree stoploss. Lets look after our own first. Why for example did previous Government give millions to the Clinton Foundation to strut around Africa for themselves and this Government has just given extra money to them after Hillary met Jacinda. What an absolute waste of taxpayers money
    Last edited by iceman; 09-05-2018 at 03:50 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Heard Willie Jackson yesterday. Answering a question about the Labour shortage in the Hawkes Bay (?) Apparently all the unemployed people cant work because of housing issues, family and community responsibilities. Judith Collins shot back "but its OK for us to bring in Pacific Islanders". Shes quick, got to give her that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westerly View Post
    Labour said they would introduce an energy payment but in both your quoted links no actual timing was given. Also the tax rebate was a National bribe and was not part of any Labour budget so you have your head inthe clouds expecting a tax cut from April to June.

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    You mean next time voters better read the fine print before voting for any out of Labour, their watermelon appendix or Winston First?

    You are right - one never can be careful enough and obviously this time the voters slipped. Ouch ...

    Your post is an outstanding reminder for the next elections. Labour is just tricky and can't be trusted. The only thing we can rely on is that they raise taxes (even if they say they don't) and waste our money. This is just who they are.
    Last edited by BlackPeter; 09-05-2018 at 10:19 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    I'm still staggered that $600,000 and $140,000 family income is the new standard for an affordable first house. I would have thought a target should be closer to $300,000 and $65,000 in income.

    Time for Govt to incentivise old folks to move from their house into a SUM or RYM village
    I guess people have to feed, clothe and pay for transport, dentistry, medicine and for necessities for themselves as well as pay for a shelter...

    The trouble is in NZ, owner-occupied housing is a most tax effective place to invest your nest egg, with historically impressive returns on owners equity (too bad for those who have not been able to afford to buy their own homes?). And that probably explains why it is one of the most expensive residential housing markets. I think that there is little incentive for oldies to downsize and invest their surplus equity into tax-paying financial investments.
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    "Kiwibuild", starting to look like an abject failure of a "policy" ? Duncan Garner certainly thinks so https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/1038...ybuild-who-can

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    Hope they’ve left the booze at home ...

    https://twitter.com/andykirton/statu...12735246467073
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Hope they’ve left the booze at home ...

    https://twitter.com/andykirton/statu...12735246467073
    Dont worry, its Tamati's electorate.

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