Labour / NZ First Government

**jonu** · 03-08-2018, 11:50 AM

Interesting piece by Mathew Hooton (yes, I know he has an agenda) in the paper today. Paints an ugly picture of the inner workings of the coalition. The Greens principles sacrificed on the altar of Winston.

**fungus pudding** · 03-08-2018, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by jonu

Interesting piece by Mathew Hooton (yes, I know he has an agenda) in the paper today. Paints an ugly picture of the inner workings of the coalition. The Greens principles sacrificed on the altar of Winston.

Which paper? Could you post the link?

**777** · 03-08-2018, 12:43 PM

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12099988

**westerly** · 03-08-2018, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by minimoke

"well being" is purely and totally a subjective measure. Its a nonsense. As for their being 100 of them, well that's just a good opportunity to mop up every moaner in existence.

Be carefull if they are mopping up moaners

westerly

**minimoke** · 03-08-2018, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by westerly

Be carefull if they are mopping up moaners

westerly

I know they wont be calling on my public views. Wouldnt suit their agenda.

**iceman** · 09-08-2018, 08:00 AM

As expected, Joyce is going to be proven right https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12103577

**macduffy** · 09-08-2018, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by iceman

As expected, Joyce is going to be proven right https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12103577

...... but at least something is finally being done to address the building skills shortage, with subsidies being paid to encourage employers to take long term unemployed youths on apprenticeships. I just hope they've budgetted for the inevitable claims from other such groups, e.g. the present crop of low paid youths/apprentices.

**minimoke** · 09-08-2018, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by macduffy

...... but at least something is finally being done to address the building skills shortage, with subsidies being paid to encourage employers to take long term unemployed youths on apprenticeships. I just hope they've budgetted for the inevitable claims from other such groups, e.g. the present crop of low paid youths/apprentices.

Oh FFS why is she wearing a Hih viz jacket.

Its about time she got her had out ot the air head clouds. The first thing employers want from an 18 - 24 year old is the proven ability to turn up to work on time and work consistently the contracted number of hours. You woudlnt htink this woudl be a hard ask - but its something way beyond many of todays youtth - especially those at winz.

Lets say teh employer gets $1000 a month.

I bet an employer would much sooner have a 90 day trial period to see if the lazy layabout can turn up to work.

$1,000 isnt going to cut it. $2,500 legal fees from a lawyer to help defend a bogus Personal Grievance for wrong full dismissal. Biff in another $1500 for lost wages and $ 3,000 for Hurt and humiliation" and any smart employer isnt going to take the risk on these kids.

The kids don't need dignity . They need a kick up the bum and if they don't turn up for work they don't get the dole. Solved!

Edit: https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/106...ignity-of-work