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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    "If Labour has the same sense of irony, perhaps it could offer English a seat on the board of the NZ Super Fund."

    The last few paragraphs of that article are quite amusing.

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    Things sure have looked up and got better since Jacinda and Grant been in charge of the purse strings. As grant increases borrowing to unprecedented levels Jacinda gots heaps more to spend -

    The Crown's financial position continues to track better than forecast. In the six months to December they recorded a +$1.1 bln OBEGAL surplus, compared to the expected +$300 mln. (That is up from the +$125 mln in the five months to November.) The full operating balance surplus is +$3.5 bln in six months. On an annual basis that is an OBEGAL surplus of $5.2 bln and the highest since just before the GFC in the year to July 2008.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Things sure have looked up and got better since Jacinda and Grant been in charge of the purse strings. As grant increases borrowing to unprecedented levels Jacinda gots heaps more to spend -

    The Crown's financial position continues to track better than forecast. In the six months to December they recorded a +$1.1 bln OBEGAL surplus, compared to the expected +$300 mln. (That is up from the +$125 mln in the five months to November.) The full operating balance surplus is +$3.5 bln in six months. On an annual basis that is an OBEGAL surplus of $5.2 bln and the highest since just before the GFC in the year to July 2008.
    That's quite the financial legacy National left them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Things sure have looked up and got better since Jacinda and Grant been in charge of the purse strings. As grant increases borrowing to unprecedented levels Jacinda gots heaps more to spend -

    The Crown's financial position continues to track better than forecast. In the six months to December they recorded a +$1.1 bln OBEGAL surplus, compared to the expected +$300 mln. (That is up from the +$125 mln in the five months to November.) The full operating balance surplus is +$3.5 bln in six months. On an annual basis that is an OBEGAL surplus of $5.2 bln and the highest since just before the GFC in the year to July 2008.
    W69, it has taken National nine years to just get close to the operating position that Labour held through their last term of office. And Labour grew the economy and labour force as well.

    Judith Collins has just put her hand up for the top opposition job, so the bloodletting begins..

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    Kaye is out as is Bennett( realist) who wants to keep her job as no2(dreaming)

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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    W69, it has taken National nine years to just get close to the operating position that Labour held through their last term of office. And Labour grew the economy and labour force as well.

    Judith Collins has just put her hand up for the top opposition job, so the bloodletting begins..
    Way Grant is talking hard to see this government running a surplus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Kaye is out as is Bennett( realist) who wants to keep her job as no2(dreaming)
    Seems like Mark Mitchell is keen - who is he? Kaye / Bennet = keeping tinder dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Seems like Mark Mitchell is keen - who is he? Kaye / Bennet = keeping tinder dry.
    He is a National politician with the same problem as Simon Bridges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    W69, it has taken National nine years to just get close to the operating position that Labour held through their last term of office. And Labour grew the economy and labour force as well.

    Judith Collins has just put her hand up for the top opposition job, so the bloodletting begins..
    eZ don't forget this when you say how fantastic the previous government was. And don't get me started on what obvious challenges National had during their reign. Even you can work those out.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4566...ost-nears-1-5b

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    Looks like Amy Adams will be throwing her hat in the ring this arvo as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Looks like Amy Adams will be throwing her hat in the ring this arvo as well.
    Good luck Amy. She and Joyce - ideal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Good luck Amy. She and Joyce - ideal.
    Oh Lord Please don't let it be Collins (though I will concede stick her in for 12 months may not be a bad thing)

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    Collins would be perfect. Her mate at whale oil will dish all the dirt for her and the actions started by Joyce and english will solidify the country opinion that national is an unworthy, unethical party. How may times does it take being honest to neutralise a deceit, too many ; people dont forget.Make it crusher the bulldozer collins, a bit like muldoon in a skirt imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemis View Post
    I keep hearing it said that Ms Collins is polarising. A few comments above that appear to agree with that. But why? She is popular in her electorate. The Oravida issue must surely be fading into the mists of time. She has forceful opinions on some subjects, but politicians should.

    Why do some hate her so much. Genuine question.
    I hear that Trump is as well popular in his electorate ... however from a leader you (or at least I ) would expect that (s)he does not turn her supporters into "winners" by turning the rest of the population off, but that (s)he is able to work for everybody. Win-win is neither Collins nor Trumps game. Collins loves only Collins and fights everybody who is not supporting her.

    Collins might be a great attack dog, but I hope for National they keep her in the kennel. She may (if elected) lead National into a disaster, but she will never ever be PM.

    Collins is turning off the political "middle ground" - and without them no party is able to govern under MMP.

    Quite easy choice - support Collins and make sure National stays for a long time in opposition. I am sure EZ, westerly & co do love Collins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Oh Lord Please don't let it be Collins (though I will concede stick her in for 12 months may not be a bad thing)
    "But National's problems still run deep. It might be facing a succession of caretaker or temporary leaders, the usual pattern for opposition parties."

    Quote from "The Press" editorial this morning. None of the candidates rated with the usually conservative paper.
    Bill will be missed

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