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18-10-2020, 08:59 PM
#6611
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
Special votes to push Jacinda above 50%? have they been counted or still to come in.
She is already over 50% - hence Labour will get 64 seats out of 120. The uncounted votes won't make much difference, but final rounding when all counted could add or subtract one seat. .
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18-10-2020, 09:03 PM
#6612
Originally Posted by stoploss
Still something like 500,000 specials to count
Some of these people will have a unique perspective on how the rest of the world is doing on covid compared to us.
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
She is already over 50% - hence Labour will get 64 seats out of 120. The uncounted votes won't make much difference, but final rounding when all counted could add or subtract one seat. .
I know but 51% under MMP would be pretty remarkable even if they already have the majority. something to write to the grandkids about.
Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 18-10-2020 at 09:06 PM.
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18-10-2020, 09:13 PM
#6613
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
Some of these people will have a unique perspective on how the rest of the world is doing on covid compared to us.
I know but 51% under MMP would be pretty remarkable even if they already have the majority. something to write to the grandkids about.
If you know they are over 50% why would it be pretty remarkable to see them at 51%? Your posts are strange and certainly devoid of logic.
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18-10-2020, 09:14 PM
#6614
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
If you know they are over 50% why would it be pretty remarkable to see them at 51%? Your posts are strange and certainly devoid of logic.
Maybe since it would be the highest vote share under MMP..
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18-10-2020, 09:40 PM
#6615
There are an estimated 480,000 votes (17 per cent of the total) still to be counted, and they could make slight changes to the election result.
Special votes are typically more left-leaning votes.
In 2017, after special votes were counted, National lost two seats, Labour lost one, and the Green Party picked up two. In 2014, National lost two seats, with Greens and Labour picking up one each.
The same kind of slight changes could happen again this year, but they are unlikely to fundamentally alter the balance of power in Parliament.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/electi...SZ4LCEROLRJSE/
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18-10-2020, 10:00 PM
#6616
There are eight electorates with a current margin of less than 1000 that could be changed by special votes.
Greens MP Chloe Swarbrick took out Auckland Central by a slim margin of 492.
It was also a close race in the Waiariki Māori electorate, with Rawiri Waititi beating Labour's Tāmati Coffey by just 415 votes.
Other close electorate races that could see changes include Whangārei, with Shane Reti (NAT) taking out the seat by just 162 votes.
In Maungakiekie, Denise Lee (NAT) managed to take the seat with 580 votes in it.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...ge-some-things
Invercargill SIMMONDS, Penny (NAT) CRAIG, Liz (LAB) 685
Northland KING, Matt (NAT) PRIME, Willow-Jean (LAB) 742
Tukituki LORCK, Anna (LAB) YULE, Lawrence (NAT) 772
Tamaki Makarau HENARE, Peeni (LAB) TAMIHERE, John (MAOR) 902
https://www.electionresults.govt.nz/...te-status.html
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19-10-2020, 07:42 AM
#6617
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
Yes. Unfortunately the 39% marginal tax rate will not have Winston to fight it, so looks like a bit of tweaking to income needed. I expect most NZX PIES will see increased demand.
28% versus 39% is a material difference. Maybe there will be a boost to kiwisaver contributions. However have they ruled out increasing PIE income PIRs?
Last edited by Bjauck; 19-10-2020 at 07:45 AM.
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19-10-2020, 08:12 AM
#6618
Originally Posted by Bjauck
28% versus 39% is a material difference. Maybe there will be a boost to kiwisaver contributions. However have they ruled out increasing PIE income PIRs?
And 28% makes PIE income that much more attractive when marginal rate increases from 33 to 39%. That's why we might see a lift in NZX PIEs, e.g. LPTS.
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19-10-2020, 08:25 AM
#6619
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
And 28% makes PIE income that much more attractive when marginal rate increases from 33 to 39%. That's why we might see a lift in NZX PIEs, e.g. LPTS.
Sir Bob has a stash of cash ready for commercial property bargains. There's a hint for LPTs.
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19-10-2020, 08:52 AM
#6620
Originally Posted by Bjauck
However have they ruled out increasing PIE income PIRs?
There has been no mention of that.
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