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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    Here's a few ideas on what individuals and families can do about climate change.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/...big-difference:
    So tell me. How many parts per million of CO2 will be reduced in the atmosphere?

    I do expect an answer - because there is no point doing these thing unless there is a measurable outcome.

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    "Anybody paid Road user charges recently? They are now (for a light vehicle) close to 7 c per liter - as high as never before ... but hey, unemployed people don't need to drive that much - good thinking!"

    Road user charges a based on distance traveled ?

    "Pretty inconsiderate comment. City dweller without a clue how life is in the countryside where the people live who's work allows you to enjoy your latte ...? "

    It is real tough living on a lifestyle block

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    Dont you just wish Labour understood basic economics. Like supply and demand. There is demand for cheap housing in Wanaka. So what do they do - supply expensive 2 bedroom homes for between $565 and $575,000 and three bedroom homes for $635 - $645,000. As a consequence there is no demand and 6 Kiwibuild houses have gone on the open market. https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/110468062/six-wanaka-kiwibuild-houses-on-open-market

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    Quote Originally Posted by westerly View Post
    "Anybody paid Road user charges recently? They are now (for a light vehicle) close to 7 c per liter - as high as never before ... but hey, unemployed people don't need to drive that much - good thinking!"

    Road user charges a based on distance traveled ?
    More basic math that seems difficult to understand. The further you live out in the country the further you travel so the more liters in fuel you use and the more Road Users charges you pay.

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    And another complete flop - the $3b Regional Development Fund. So far it has succeded in job creation. Not for NEPH's. But for Wellington beaurocrats. 118 of them. While the regions have benefited to the tune of 54 actual jobs for decent NZ'ers. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12201355

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    More basic math that seems difficult to understand. The further you live out in the country the further you travel so the more liters in fuel you use and the more Road Users charges you pay.
    More basic maths? RUC are per 1000k travelled . Presumably the amount of fuel used per 1000k would stay the same. There is no increase in fuel cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westerly View Post
    More basic maths? RUC are per 1000k travelled . Presumably the amount of fuel used per 1000k would stay the same. There is no increase in fuel cost.

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    . The point being made was pretty plain and obvious - to sensible people at least. Road user charges increased the equivalent of 3.5 cents a litre in October 2018, with another die in 2019 and 2020 https://www.transport.govt.nz/land/road-user-charges-ruc-and-petrol-excise-duty-ped/increases-to-petrol-excise-duty-and-road-user-charges/

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what jot of difference anything NZ does that will make even a slight difference to a changing climate.

    Jeez and now we have unemployment up and job opportunities down. Thats useless at getting people out of poverdy. She useless at Kiwibuild, useless tree planting, useless transparency. She cant even produce a healthy breakfast at Waitangi, bother to do any of her speech in te reo and muffed the patsy Treaty question
    The greenies will tell you removing plastic bags from NZ supermarkets is playing a part.

    Not sure any green policies in NZ is going to reduce emissions from the 2 biggest polluters USA and China.

    The UN's IPCC has a lot to answer for.

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    Apparently it was a great speech by Jacinda yesterday

    https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/p...land-breakfast

    Michael Reddell in his blog not impressed -

    I read the Prime Minister's economics speech yesterday. I wasn't impressed. There is simply no sign that she cares one jot about New Zealand's decades of underperformance or that she has any sort of analytical framework (herself or from her advisers) for even thinking about the issue. It be repetitious to say so - as a reader this week suggested - but the utter unseriousness about our ongoing relative decline really matters; perhaps not directly or much for many people my age or older, but for our kids, and their future kids. Including for the question of whether the next generations even stay, rather than joining the million or so New Zealanders (net) who've left over recent decades.

    She continues to perpetuate what are little more than lies
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    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    And another complete flop - the $3b Regional Development Fund. So far it has succeded in job creation. Not for NEPH's. But for Wellington beaurocrats. 118 of them. While the regions have benefited to the tune of 54 actual jobs for decent NZ'ers. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12201355
    National are becoming more and more trump like every day and less relevant too with their "wolf" stories.

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