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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    Silver lining to this dark cloud.
    A coal black lining maybe.

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    Huge subsidies to businesses, rent freezes and all sorts of things ....but the good old minimum wage must go up.
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Huge subsidies to businesses, rent freezes and all sorts of things ....but the good old minimum wage must go up.
    Yes, it is an example of the politics in this. A sop to their voters.

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    [QUOTE=Joshuatree;801237]

    Gordon Campbell on the economic stimulus package


    Lots of info here and well worth reading ..[/QUOTENational leader Simon Bridges has reverted to his party’s time-honoured beneficiary-bashing tradition by ranting about how the stimulus package was putting beneficiaries ahead of workers. Bluntly, what we see in this package today is money flowing faster into the hands of beneficiaries than the workers and the businesses that will lose their businesses and their jobs over the coming weeks and months.”
    Really? How can that be when the $5.1 billion being directly allocated ASAP to businesses and to workers in wage subsidies, is more than double the relief that’s being allocated to beneficiaries? Moreover, those on welfare are getting $25 a week while the stimulus package is also giving businesses $2.8 billion of relief in tax changes to help improve their cash flow? The beneficiary numbers, Bridges seems unable to grasp, are shortly going to be swelled significantly by the people who are about to lose their jobs – regardless of what this or any other government tries to do about the coronavirus. Clearly, if Bridges was the PM, the neediest would be being left behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post

    Gordon Campbell on the economic stimulus package


    Lots of info here and well worth reading ..[/QUOTE[FONT="]National leader Simon Bridges has reverted to his party’s time-honoured beneficiary-bashing tradition [/FONT]by ranting about how the stimulus package was putting beneficiaries ahead of workers. [FONT="]Bluntly, what we see in this package today is money flowing faster into the hands of beneficiaries than the workers and the businesses that will lose their businesses and their jobs over the coming weeks and months.”[/FONT]
    Really? How can that be when the $5.1 billion being directly allocated ASAP to businesses and to workers in wage subsidies, is more than double the relief that’s being allocated to beneficiaries? Moreover, those on welfare are getting $25 a week while the stimulus package is also giving businesses $2.8 billion of relief in tax changes to help improve their cash flow? The beneficiary numbers, Bridges seems unable to grasp, are shortly going to be swelled significantly by the people who are about to lose their jobs – regardless of what this or any other government tries to do about the coronavirus. Clearly, if Bridges was the PM, the neediest would be being left behind.

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    Yes JT...but if you or Mr Campbell actually realised that the beneficiiaries hadn't had a pay cut or loss of revenue you would realise Mr Bridges had a point. Remembering of course that it is business and those employed who provide the tax that enables the benefits to be paid in the first place.

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    This blatant politicking and vote buying is very disappointing during this crisis. 100,000 packages of food and clothes for Maori only and Kaumatua getting a preferential access to tests, when younger people should get preference. I wonder if they also put a note in the parcels when delivered in Northland with a photo of Nieve and a message from Jacinda for them to vote for Shane Jones so she has a chance of getting back in. https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion...ovid-outbreak/

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoploss View Post

    Clark apologies to Ardern

    Good man . I can understand him wanting to take a break from what must one of the most stressful and demanding times for the folks in Govt ever ,so justifying his stress reliever but he has fessed up it wa s wrong. I justified launching a canoe ( no body around to self distance from)in shallow water close to the shore so i could self rescue but i realised that its just not being a good example and stopped. Theres a few on here who have justified their long runs out of their hoods,and wont stop despite being pulled up about it..Muppets?

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    Come on, Jt! This is a cabinet minister - indeed the Minister of Health! - that's setting this example to all of how to bend the rules! Not good enough!


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    Quote Originally Posted by macduffy View Post
    Come on, Jt! This is a cabinet minister - indeed the Minister of Health! - that's setting this example to all of how to bend the rules! Not good enough!

    He hardly bent the rules. Short drive and easy off road bike ride. All within 'common sense' guidelines.

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