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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    When you have an opposition who considers you the enemy to be attacked and taken down at ANY opp one has to be prudent. When you have an opposition who dont want to be reasonable as in my previous example but will take any cheap shot they can regardless of whats good for NZ , one needs to be prudent. National will be given opps to collaborate despite this behaviour. Will they change their spots; i dont think so, consigning themselves to stay where they are for a few terms yet imo.An irrelevant stagnant backwater.
    You are right JT. National only need to sit back and watch the coalition destroy themselves.

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    Maybe that would be a better strategy for them 777, the more National attacks the more the coalition realise they have to collaborate and be united.
    Looks like its the Nats only opposing the end of life bill.? On religious grounds by the looks or plain antagonistic, insensitive to the suffering people with terminal illnesses have to endure. .Just goes to show how far out of touch they are with compassion and the real world,MMP and owning up to their tactical blunders last election. Mind you the lying helped them but in future they won't be trusted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Maybe that would be a better strategy for them 777, the more National attacks the more the coalition realise they have to collaborate and be united.
    Looks like its the Nats only opposing the end of life bill.? On religious grounds by the looks or plain antagonistic, insensitive to the suffering people with terminal illnesses have to endure. .Just goes to show how far out of touch they are with compassion and the real world,MMP and owning up to their tactical blunders last election. Mind you the lying helped them but in future they won't be trusted.
    Look for your self. Some Labour against and some National for.



    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11959128

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    Thanks.

    labour delivering on its promises re child poverty. fantastic stuff

    Families look forward to budget boost for 'the little things'
    Audrey Young: Stunning impact for Govt package

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Maybe that would be a better strategy for them 777, the more National attacks the more the coalition realise they have to collaborate and be united.
    Looks like its the Nats only opposing the end of life bill.? On religious grounds by the looks or plain antagonistic, insensitive to the suffering people with terminal illnesses have to endure. .Just goes to show how far out of touch they are with compassion and the real world,MMP and owning up to their tactical blunders last election. Mind you the lying helped them but in future they won't be trusted.
    What a ridiculous post. This issue is not decided o political leanings and it is great. Sad you still want to play politics with it. Sadly I think NZ is being left behind on some issues because we politicise them unreasonably, as you've done here.

    A couple of weeks ago NZ media said Iceland got a "Jacinda" for PM with a new "Left Green PM". But there's huge difference with a 3 party majority Government from Right to Left with a 100 year old regional based centrist party smack bang in the middle. One of their first policies is to raise age of super to 70, by 2042, starting 1 Jan 2018. Age of elegibility increases by 2 months for each of next 12 years and 1 month next 12 years.. So those starting to receive super in 2042 will have to be 70. Why the hell can NZ not agree on something sensible like this ? Stupid politics !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Thanks.

    labour delivering on its promises re child poverty. fantastic stuff

    Families look forward to budget boost for 'the little things'
    Audrey Young: Stunning impact for Govt package
    Great stuff - more smokes and booze for the parents - this will certainly help the poor little things!
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    What a ridiculous post. This issue is not decided o political leanings and it is great. Sad you still want to play politics with it. Sadly I think NZ is being left behind on some issues because we politicise them unreasonably, as you've done here.

    A couple of weeks ago NZ media said Iceland got a "Jacinda" for PM with a new "Left Green PM". But there's huge difference with a 3 party majority Government from Right to Left with a 100 year old regional based centrist party smack bang in the middle. One of their first policies is to raise age of super to 70, by 2042, starting 1 Jan 2018. Age of elegibility increases by 2 months for each of next 12 years and 1 month next 12 years.. So those starting to receive super in 2042 will have to be 70. Why the hell can NZ not agree on something sensible like this ? Stupid politics !
    Being offensive comes easy for the iceman.
    Being compassionate is not a word the iceman understands , i hope he can melt a little .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Great stuff - more smokes and booze for the parents - this will certainly help the poor little things!
    There are always some who would do what you selfishly would do but most want the best for their kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Being offensive comes easy for the iceman.
    Being compassionate is not a word the iceman understands , i hope he can melt a little .
    But he so correct JT. As is BlackPeter.

    All this Government is doing is giving away fish instead of fishing rods. They do it knowing that it will not achieve what they say it will but will keep their voting base up. Even a blind person can see this. Keep them wanting and offer them more next time.

    It is bad parenting that is the cause of this "child poverty".
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    You guys are so out of touch with the reality of poverty. Im wishing you some soon so that you will finally get a taste of what it is like; for xmas. Will throw in some crackers laced with compassion and empathy. some very scary detached 'Uman beens out there.

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