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18-04-2019, 04:07 PM
#2441
Originally Posted by westerly
Yeah, got it wrong, but even at 30 cents compared wih Australia's 45 cents top rate the wealthy are doing well in NZ
westerly
It is about $88,000 income that Australia tax becomes more than NZ. And their top rate 45c comes in at $180,000.
There were new rates announced in the recent budget which will alter things a bit.
When do you think people become wealthy?
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18-04-2019, 04:30 PM
#2442
Originally Posted by westerly
Yeah, got it wrong, but even at 30 cents compared wih Australia's 45 cents top rate the wealthy are doing well in NZ
westerly
Why? Simply because they are not taxed as much as the immoral Australian rate? The govt. should not be able to take 33% of my money just because of some arbitrary line.
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18-04-2019, 05:32 PM
#2443
Originally Posted by Bjauck
It is up to Shaw to make his judgment before the next election if he does not wish to campaign as part of a coalition. NZF may pick up a few votes now.
While housing supply failed to keep up with population growth and investors helped price first home buyers out of cheaper areas, Key’s National Party mostly avoided the issues. Were they Too unpalatable for the National Party Constituency?
Ardern seems to think a comprehensive tax reform is necessary. However she does not have the parliamentary numbers to be able to achieve that. However she has said she hopes to introduce targeted changes. She has not abandoned principles but will try to find a different way to gradually achieve policies that takes into account parliamentary arithmetic.
She abandoned her principles when she signed the Coalition agreement with Winston First where he was handed all the power and given a few $ Billion slush fund while Labour gets very little and The Greens have been made a joke of. Now with CGT abandoned, we wait with interest to see what she is going to do, if anything, about her generation's "nuclear moment" , but I suspect Winnie will scuttle any attempt at that as well. I do note when she announced dropping CGT , her statement also included the environmental taxes the TWG recommended. Certainly nothing has happened yet, after 18 months in Government.
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18-04-2019, 11:15 PM
#2444
Originally Posted by iceman
She abandoned her principles when she signed the Coalition agreement with Winston First where he was handed all the power and given a few $ Billion slush fund while Labour gets very little and The Greens have been made a joke of. Now with CGT abandoned, we wait with interest to see what she is going to do, if anything, about her generation's "nuclear moment" , but I suspect Winnie will scuttle any attempt at that as well. I do note when she announced dropping CGT , her statement also included the environmental taxes the TWG recommended. Certainly nothing has happened yet, after 18 months in Government.
I am not sure what your distinction is between principles and policy goals. Isn’t it a requirement of all politicians who become cabinet ministers per Collective cabinet responsibility that personal policy goals and ideas need to be tempered with the need to co-operate with others to reach a consensus.
If Labour voters thinks that the balance of power in government has tilted too far in favour of NZF, then they can switch to National If they think National in government would be more likely to introduce Labour Party type policies....
Last edited by Bjauck; 18-04-2019 at 11:27 PM.
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19-04-2019, 04:28 AM
#2445
It's starting to look like 1974.
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19-04-2019, 06:58 AM
#2446
Originally Posted by GTM 3442
It's starting to look like 1974.
Is she shooting pigeons from the rooftop or something?
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20-04-2019, 09:20 AM
#2447
Originally Posted by Bjauck
I am not sure what your distinction is between principles and policy goals. Isn’t it a requirement of all politicians who become cabinet ministers per Collective cabinet responsibility that personal policy goals and ideas need to be tempered with the need to co-operate with others to reach a consensus.
If Labour voters thinks that the balance of power in government has tilted too far in favour of NZF, then they can switch to National If they think National in government would be more likely to introduce Labour Party type policies....
Obviously when there are none of your achievable policy goals in a political agreement you sign, you have no principles in politics. That's how I see our PM, she doesn't stand for anything.
Duncan Garner sums it up well here : https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...itical-capital
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20-04-2019, 09:25 AM
#2448
Originally Posted by iceman
She abandoned her principles when she signed the Coalition agreement with Winston First where he was handed all the power and given a few $ Billion slush fund while Labour gets very little and The Greens have been made a joke of. Now with CGT abandoned, we wait with interest to see what she is going to do, if anything, about her generation's "nuclear moment" , but I suspect Winnie will scuttle any attempt at that as well. I do note when she announced dropping CGT , her statement also included the environmental taxes the TWG recommended. Certainly nothing has happened yet, after 18 months in Government.
Mr Jones is going to have a whole lot of trouble spending his re-election fund, especially now the OAG is watching. I expect to see big bucks tipped into the 'nuclear moment' black hole.
The Opposition is also watching, mostly keeping its power dry atm.
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20-04-2019, 04:35 PM
#2449
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
Is she shooting pigeons from the rooftop or something?
Not that I'm aware of, but you do wonder who's got the little Black Book. . .
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21-04-2019, 05:27 PM
#2450
A bullying culture with a boss like Trevor Mallard. Surely they are just following his lead ! https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...at-the-beehive
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