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    Seems the alleged ‘predator’ at The Beehive might have been a mate of the Minister of Finance (rumour/speculation/pub talk)

    Maybe this Predator Free 2050 initiative has to start at The Beehive
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    Looks to me that Cindy has finally used up her stardust with the media. It has taken the best part of 2 years, but they are calling BS on her statements about not knowing of the sexual nature of these complaints.

    What has irked me about her since the get go is her absolute cynicism. She claims transparency but has been willing from the start to brush over, delay, order an inquiry into the inquiry, and generally smile and BS her way through anything awkward. She is worse than Key in this regard because she is claiming to be above all that.

    My impression of her is that she has found herself in a position way above her competency level and that she has bluffed her way through it by and large, with a healthy dose of help from a doting media. Time is up and chickens are looking for a roost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Looks to me that Cindy has finally used up her stardust with the media. It has taken the best part of 2 years, but they are calling BS on her statements about not knowing of the sexual nature of these complaints.

    What has irked me about her since the get go is her absolute cynicism. She claims transparency but has been willing from the start to brush over, delay, order an inquiry into the inquiry, and generally smile and BS her way through anything awkward. She is worse than Key in this regard because she is claiming to be above all that.

    My impression of her is that she has found herself in a position way above her competency level and that she has bluffed her way through it by and large, with a healthy dose of help from a doting media. Time is up and chickens are looking for a roost.
    Her deputy P.M. will be licking his chops in the background.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Her deputy P.M. will be licking his chops in the background.
    Trouble is, he is knee deep in the same crap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Seems the alleged ‘predator’ at The Beehive might have been a mate of the Minister of Finance (rumour/speculation/pub talk)

    Maybe this Predator Free 2050 initiative has to start at The Beehive
    That is the best Winner. With that I am off to shower....movies and dinner out tonight. Yahoo.
    Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTM View Post
    That is the best Winner. With that I am off to shower....movies and dinner out tonight. Yahoo.
    Well done.
    Way to treat it, the gossip mongers. Alot of people standing firm with their beliefs here, who's right and who's wrong, stuffed if i know, happy to await the QC report. Protocols and terms of reference (focused on bullying only?). Its messy and not acceptable.
    Also remembering the national party only released the sexual assault and bullying behaviour of jamie lee ross to get rid of him , no care for the victims atp.

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    Heard on the radio that the ‘predator’ was hired / employed after the complaints were laid

    Anyway he has resigned now

    Weird
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Way to treat it, the gossip mongers. Alot of people standing firm with their beliefs here, who's right and who's wrong, stuffed if i know, happy to await the QC report. Protocols and terms of reference (focused on bullying only?). Its messy and not acceptable.
    Also remembering the national party only released the sexual assault and bullying behaviour of jamie lee ross to get rid of him , no care for the victims atp.
    But Cindy didn't knowwwww JT. Labour is in real trouble here. Cindy is the only thing that holds them up, and she has just been shown to be a cynical, throw 'em under the bus, save my own skin, truth averse politician. While all the time claiming the moral high ground. I think she's toast...and Grant Robertson with her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Heard on the radio that the ‘predator’ was hired / employed after the complaints were laid

    Anyway he has resigned now

    Weird
    What is his name? Nothing to prevent it being published, but I don't think anyone has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    But Cindy didn't knows JT. Labour is in real trouble here. Cindy is the only thing that holds them up, and she has just been shown to be a cynical, throw 'em under the bus, save my own skin, truth averse politician. While all the time claiming the moral high ground. I think she's toast...and Grant Robertson with her.
    Yes the shaky house of COL is looking likely to collapse(Just like Kiwibuild) well before the 2020 election ... pretty sorry state of politics in NZ these days... as not like Bridges is a leader NZD'er want ... A new leader for National that is respected would see a whitewash of the COL back to backwater they held for many years prior IMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBmurc View Post
    Yes the shaky house of COL is looking likely to collapse(Just like Kiwibuild) well before the 2020 election ... pretty sorry state of politics in NZ these days... as not like Bridges is a leader NZD'er want ... A new leader for National that is respected would see a whitewash of the COL back to backwater they held for many years prior IMHO
    Completely agree. National should easily clean up in the next election, except it's hard to see Bridges as PM. Same applies to Collins. They need a leader with charisma, and there's a couple of them in the party.

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    So much for all the fine, compassionate words uttered after the Christchurch shootings. Now Cabinet isn't prepared to do the compassionate thing to allow special visas for family members to support those widowed by the shootings. If current legislation doesn't allow it, isn't that what government is for, to pass amending legislation as a matter of urgency?

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    Quote Originally Posted by macduffy View Post
    So much for all the fine, compassionate words uttered after the Christchurch shootings. Now Cabinet isn't prepared to do the compassionate thing to allow special visas for family members to support those widowed by the shootings. If current legislation doesn't allow it, isn't that what government is for, to pass amending legislation as a matter of urgency?
    Agreed. Wonder whether this was Winnies populism succeeding over decency?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Looks to me that Cindy has finally used up her stardust with the media. It has taken the best part of 2 years, but they are calling BS on her statements about not knowing of the sexual nature of these complaints.

    What has irked me about her since the get go is her absolute cynicism. She claims transparency but has been willing from the start to brush over, delay, order an inquiry into the inquiry, and generally smile and BS her way through anything awkward. She is worse than Key in this regard because she is claiming to be above all that.

    My impression of her is that she has found herself in a position way above her competency level and that she has bluffed her way through it by and large, with a healthy dose of help from a doting media. Time is up and chickens are looking for a roost.
    Yeap… Duncan Garner on the attack https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...cid=spartanntp
    Plausible deniability but the trouble is almost nobody thinks its plausible.
    Even if she survives in the short term this one will "dog" her for a very long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    But Cindy didn't knowwwww JT. Labour is in real trouble here. Cindy is the only thing that holds them up, and she has just been shown to be a cynical, throw 'em under the bus, save my own skin, truth averse politician. While all the time claiming the moral high ground. I think she's toast...and Grant Robertson with her.
    If she's toast you're peanut butter. Wishing and hoping doesn't help here. Facts are what i want to see.Just have to wait. But somethings a bit strange here. Sounds like some planned scripts have been read out, The communication and use of words are so well written and expressed , vey political, professional spin, really aimed at undermining the govt. Crosby/textor sounding tactics.
    i just hope like hell im wrong that a part of this isn't some sort of sting setup. Some plants, i just dont know? And now we have to wait some time for the QC investigation.
    Some fake stuff mixed in with some real stuff?

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