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    Quote Originally Posted by Baa_Baa View Post
    The election campaign has made things murky but it does make one wonder how much the government actually knows and when they actually decide to tell the people. Something doesn’t smell right, smoke and fire?
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...rantine-breach

    So why is Bloomfield contradicting Cindy?

    Something more than smells and it’s not Hipkins’ socks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...rantine-breach

    So why is Bloomfield contradicting Cindy?

    Something more than smells and it’s not Hipkins’ socks.
    Sounds more and more like authorities knew there was a problem and had to wait for it to surface. Hence the increased fearmongering about masks and testing just prior. Presumably they knew of a breach with an infected person but couldn't be sure if there had been transmission. Big question is, did Ardern know? She was at the forefront of the scaremongering and visiting a mask factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabond47 View Post
    They were being tested on a regular schedule, which you would know if you'd watched the lunchtime press conference. Don't let facts get in the way of a rant eh? https://youtu.be/TccbsJD9k3A?t=1777
    What are the facts???

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...-week-ago.html

    We know who you believe, but......................... would you allow there's room for doubt?

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    Looks like quarantine operation was improved for anyone absconding only. They've really forgotten to test all the personnel involved. This is like Kiwibuild all over again, to be improved time and time again but nothing gets done. This Covid19 outbreak will make or break this gov't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greater fool View Post
    What are the facts???

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...-week-ago.html

    We know who you believe, but......................... would you allow there's room for doubt?
    Poor old Vagabond47 - betrayed by his beloved Cindy beyond redemption.

    I actually feel sorry for him - must hurt so bad to be let down so decisively.

    “Newshub can reveal that just one week before our current community outbreak, 63.5 percent of all border and hotel isolation workers in Auckland had never been tested for COVID-19.

    The Prime Minister says all staff will now face compulsory tests, but a public health expert says it beggars belief this wasn't already happening.

    They're part of our most high-risk group: airport staff like Customs and Immigration, hotel workers like security.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Poor old Vagabond47 - betrayed by his beloved Cindy beyond redemption.

    I actually feel sorry for him - must hurt so bad to be let down so decisively.

    “Newshub can reveal that just one week before our current community outbreak, 63.5 percent of all border and hotel isolation workers in Auckland had never been tested for COVID-19.

    The Prime Minister says all staff will now face compulsory tests, but a public health expert says it beggars belief this wasn't already happening.

    They're part of our most high-risk group: airport staff like Customs and Immigration, hotel workers like security.”
    Nothing beggars belief about the competency levels of this lot. Ardern and her Cabinet of incompetents. It's what happens when you have a PR expert in charge of a Cabinet chosen on the basis of diversity not competency. It's all about the optics and framing the narrative. They make up the policy by way of reacting to the latest cockup.

    All points to big Gerry not being so paranoid after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Left field View Post
    Crikey, I've got to say yesterday's conspiracy theory interview by Jerry Brownlee has not done National any favours.
    As the Spinoff says “If Winston Peters’ superannuation overpayments could not stay private, then there’s no way dozens of people could hold information this dangerous without it leaking out. “

    https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/13...s-interesting/
    For the conspiracy theory to be real, though, the government and health department have to conspire to risk the lives of thousands of citizens, and spend billions while blowing up a fragile economy, all so that they can impose a kind of authoritarianism by stealth. This is not an exaggeration – it’s the most logical implication of what Brownlee finds so interesting.
    It’s also, as Grant Robertson put it this morning, “ridiculous nonsense”. Brownlee knows full well that there is not a vast deep state conspiracy to reinfect the population for malign political ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baa_Baa View Post
    The election campaign has made things murky but it does make one wonder how much the government actually knows and when they actually decide to tell the people. Something doesn’t smell right, smoke and fire?
    Conspiracy theories - yeah right. It is hard to keep secrets in NZ. The quotes below come from yesterday's HGH thread. Information from sharetrader posters so a reliable source.

    Quote Originally Posted by King1212 View Post
    If u see broadly nz shares....all started to trade lower after 3pm then big buys at the end...so.....might be the fundies got the news....
    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatestben View Post
    Another forum I frequent a member was told from an insider somewhere that a major city had cases and would be going into lock down. That post was a good few hours before the announcement so I have no doubt the news was circulating

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    All points to big Gerry not being so paranoid after all.
    Paranoid and conspiracy theories? Hard to keep information confidential in NZ.

    This is how confidential information is leaked in NZ political circles, according to Winston Peters. And let us not forget the leaked emails that lead to the downfall of Hamish Walker and Michelle Boag.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...-in-parliament
    Peters claimed in the House that he had been told former National Party press secretary Rachel Morton was the original source of the leak (of his superannuation overpayment.)
    He alleged Morton heard about his superannuation details because she was present when former National minister Anne Tolley told her colleague Paula Bennett about it.
    "Ms Morton then, thinking it would be kept in confidence, told ACT Party leader David Seymour," Peters said in Parliament.
    He then alleged Seymour shared the information with Jordan Williams from the Taxpayers' Union.
    "Williams, who is no stranger to dirty politics, told John Bishop - father of National MP Chris Bishop - and the details were then leaked to Newsroom's Tim Murphy.
    "Williams also told another dirty politics practitioner, National Party polster David Farrar," Peters told the House.
    Peters said Farrar tried to "shut it down" because of the risk to National.
    Peters then claimed his source had informed him National Party members had "joked among themselves about the leak but realised they couldn't do anything with the 'no surprises disclosure' their risk was too high".
    "That of course didn't prevent Ms [Anne] Tolley from telling her sister, nor did it prevent 42 people being made aware of my super case.
    ACT leader David Seymour told Parliament the claims were disgraceful and sleazy.

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    Dirtier and dirtier and desperate. At this rate The national party wont even save the teacups let alone the furniture.

    Watching New Zealand getting red-pilled

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