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    Quote Originally Posted by tim23 View Post
    On no - guess who back with typical embarrassment?
    Feel the fear?

    I ❤️ It!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Feel the fear?

    I ❤️ It!
    Some things never change

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim23 View Post
    Some things never change
    Quite true and some things are best ignored

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    One of your best political posts Balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    She is already useless as PM, delivering bugger all on the transformative big promises she made in 2017!
    But she is PM by a landslide - the biggest since MMP
    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Feel the fear?

    I ❤️ It!
    Do you feel it?
    The fear.
    Surely the world as we know it must now end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    But she is PM by a landslide - the biggest since MMP


    Do you feel it?
    The fear.
    Surely the world as we know it must now end?
    Many votes went to Labour because of the fear of the Greens having any substantial bargaining power, i felt that fear but fortunately the greater evil has been averted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by couta1 View Post
    Many votes went to Labour because of the fear of the Greens having any substantial bargaining power, i felt that fear but fortunately the greater evil has been averted.
    Yes. Unfortunately the 39% marginal tax rate will not have Winston to fight it, so looks like a bit of tweaking to income needed. I expect most NZX PIES will see increased demand.

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    Special votes to push Jacinda above 50%? have they been counted or still to come in.
    Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 18-10-2020 at 07:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Special votes to push Jacinda above 50%? have they been counted or still to come in.
    Still something like 500,000 specials to count

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Special votes to push Jacinda above 50%? have they been counted or still to come in.
    She is already over 50% - hence Labour will get 64 seats out of 120. The uncounted votes won't make much difference, but final rounding when all counted could add or subtract one seat. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoploss View Post
    Still something like 500,000 specials to count
    Some of these people will have a unique perspective on how the rest of the world is doing on covid compared to us.

    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    She is already over 50% - hence Labour will get 64 seats out of 120. The uncounted votes won't make much difference, but final rounding when all counted could add or subtract one seat. .
    I know but 51% under MMP would be pretty remarkable even if they already have the majority. something to write to the grandkids about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Some of these people will have a unique perspective on how the rest of the world is doing on covid compared to us.



    I know but 51% under MMP would be pretty remarkable even if they already have the majority. something to write to the grandkids about.
    If you know they are over 50% why would it be pretty remarkable to see them at 51%? Your posts are strange and certainly devoid of logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    If you know they are over 50% why would it be pretty remarkable to see them at 51%? Your posts are strange and certainly devoid of logic.
    Maybe since it would be the highest vote share under MMP..

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    There are an estimated 480,000 votes (17 per cent of the total) still to be counted, and they could make slight changes to the election result.
    Special votes are typically more left-leaning votes.
    In 2017, after special votes were counted, National lost two seats, Labour lost one, and the Green Party picked up two. In 2014, National lost two seats, with Greens and Labour picking up one each.
    The same kind of slight changes could happen again this year, but they are unlikely to fundamentally alter the balance of power in Parliament.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/electi...SZ4LCEROLRJSE/

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    There are eight electorates with a current margin of less than 1000 that could be changed by special votes.

    Greens MP Chloe Swarbrick took out Auckland Central by a slim margin of 492.
    It was also a close race in the Waiariki Māori electorate, with Rawiri Waititi beating Labour's Tāmati Coffey by just 415 votes.
    Other close electorate races that could see changes include Whangārei, with Shane Reti (NAT) taking out the seat by just 162 votes.
    In Maungakiekie, Denise Lee (NAT) managed to take the seat with 580 votes in it.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...ge-some-things

    Invercargill SIMMONDS, Penny (NAT) CRAIG, Liz (LAB) 685
    Northland KING, Matt (NAT) PRIME, Willow-Jean (LAB) 742
    Tukituki LORCK, Anna (LAB) YULE, Lawrence (NAT) 772
    Tamaki Makarau HENARE, Peeni (LAB) TAMIHERE, John (MAOR) 902

    https://www.electionresults.govt.nz/...te-status.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Yes. Unfortunately the 39% marginal tax rate will not have Winston to fight it, so looks like a bit of tweaking to income needed. I expect most NZX PIES will see increased demand.
    28% versus 39% is a material difference. Maybe there will be a boost to kiwisaver contributions. However have they ruled out increasing PIE income PIRs?
    Last edited by Bjauck; 19-10-2020 at 06:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    28% versus 39% is a material difference. Maybe there will be a boost to kiwisaver contributions. However have they ruled out increasing PIE income PIRs?
    And 28% makes PIE income that much more attractive when marginal rate increases from 33 to 39%. That's why we might see a lift in NZX PIEs, e.g. LPTS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    And 28% makes PIE income that much more attractive when marginal rate increases from 33 to 39%. That's why we might see a lift in NZX PIEs, e.g. LPTS.
    Sir Bob has a stash of cash ready for commercial property bargains. There's a hint for LPTs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    However have they ruled out increasing PIE income PIRs?
    There has been no mention of that.

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