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15-12-2019, 12:29 PM
#3091
Originally Posted by iceman
I think Steven Joyce has been proven right, despite all the outcry from media and economists at the time, all of whom have been proven wrong
Not to worry, those economists have a new career waiting for them - political pollsters.
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15-12-2019, 01:20 PM
#3092
Originally Posted by Joshuatree
9 years of underfunding everything.Did the easy lower hung fruit thing and pumped immigration, never mind our hospitals etc not being funded to cope. Let alone the property crises and totally denying it! Sold off state owned assets, criminal. Had no care for families to have closure for their pike mine loved ones etc etc etc.Just a few off the top of my head.
"the left is a lie" thing really demonstrates that one can be brainwashed ala trump, say it 3 times and its true kinda thing. I'd remove that "mantra" to retain a little credibility re being your own person.
Josh, The " under funding" claim is total B S as we all know, as an example,when Helen was kicked out that govt spent 9 billion on health, so to recoup , since 1840 to 2009 the health budget was $9,000,000,000, when the the National govt was betrayed by W P the health spent was $18,000,000,000 a doubling in 9 years, where is the " underfunding" again ?
There are many more examples of them spending on items that needed spending on and lots of items of not spending on items that did not need more money thrown at !
Never forget , " the left is a lie, " the population of the U K have just shown that and still the Labour Party does not except what has happened !
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15-12-2019, 01:25 PM
#3093
Originally Posted by macduffy
Two reasons, artemis. The electorate in general wanted Brexit done and traditional Labour supporters didn't like Corbyn's prevarication.
mac, what really happened in the U K, the population have said , " enough " we want something different and still Corban cannot understand that.
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15-12-2019, 01:46 PM
#3094
Originally Posted by whatsup
mac, what really happened in the U K, the population have said , " enough " we want something different and still Corban cannot understand that.
Quote of the year. Boris says the UK is now Corbyn-neutral.
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18-12-2019, 01:40 PM
#3095
More delivery from our Govt
Minimum wage rise confirmed
"Lees-Galloway said it reconfirmed the rates signalled in 2018 and the Government's plan for a $20 minimum wage in 2021."We're implementing a balanced approach to the minimum wage increases and have provided certainty to businesses who told us they wanted to know how much the minimum wage will increase and when the changes were going to happen," says Iain Lees-Galloway.
"Last year, we signalled minimum wages of $18.90 for 2020 and $20 in 2021. By re-confirming these rates we offer certainty the businesses need for planning and forecasting."
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18-12-2019, 02:00 PM
#3096
Member
Originally Posted by Joshuatree
More delivery from our Govt
Minimum wage rise confirmed
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"Lees-Galloway said it reconfirmed the rates signalled in 2018 and the Government's plan for a $20 minimum wage in 2021.[/FONT][FONT="]"We're implementing a balanced approach to the minimum wage increases and have provided certainty to businesses who told us they wanted to know how much the minimum wage will increase and when the changes were going to happen," says Iain Lees-Galloway.[/FONT]
"Last year, we signalled minimum wages of $18.90 for 2020 and $20 in 2021. By re-confirming these rates we offer certainty the businesses need for planning and forecasting."
Take with one hand, give with the other. I have yet to meet anyone that has seen a positive result from the lifting minimum wage as this Government has increased cost of living to help pay for the increase. Go figure
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18-12-2019, 02:04 PM
#3097
Originally Posted by Joshuatree
More delivery from our Govt
Minimum wage rise confirmed
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"Lees-Galloway said it reconfirmed the rates signalled in 2018 and the Government's plan for a $20 minimum wage in 2021.[/FONT][FONT="]"We're implementing a balanced approach to the minimum wage increases and have provided certainty to businesses who told us they wanted to know how much the minimum wage will increase and when the changes were going to happen," says Iain Lees-Galloway.[/FONT]
"Last year, we signalled minimum wages of $18.90 for 2020 and $20 in 2021. By re-confirming these rates we offer certainty the businesses need for planning and forecasting."
These lifting of the minimum wage will not help those on minimum wage one iota. Prices will rise accordingly as will rents and they will be just as badly off as before. Except businesses that employ them may feel the pinch initially and just look to automation or not hire new staff. Talk about shooting your constituents when they are down.
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18-12-2019, 02:23 PM
#3098
Originally Posted by Scooter
Take with one hand, give with the other. I have yet to meet anyone that has seen a positive result from the lifting minimum wage as this Government has increased cost of living to help pay for the increase. Go figure
Not quite right - this government takes with both hands and returns so little. Increased minimum wage means not a cost to or benefit of the government, it just means that the cost of labour is going up big time for companies.
Labour promised to take (steal) more money from companies - and sure, one of the promises they kept. Not very hard though, is it - and certainly nothing to be proud of.
What it means for the government is that they pay themselves a higher tax income to feed all their bureaucracy and useless debating clubs through increased income taxes (ultimately paid by the companies as well) and that they reduce their benefits bill courtesy to the companies taking over the cost.
Nice for Labour as long as companies are able to afford the additional cost ... however:
New Zealand is already now (after Australia and Luxembourg) the country with the third highest minimum wage world wide. Labour's changes will make our companies still more in-competitive. Lets kill the cow we all are milking - shall we? Typical Labour.
https://ceoworld.biz/2019/01/03/coun...he-world-2019/
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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18-12-2019, 02:31 PM
#3099
Originally Posted by Scooter
Take with one hand, give with the other. I have yet to meet anyone that has seen a positive result from the lifting minimum wage as this Government has increased cost of living to help pay for the increase. Go figure
Yeah let them eat crusts, keep em down there so we can prosper
Nope sorry wrong century and location for u. Average $48 a week extra that they will spend at our businesses win/win.More to come, good for all , better for some.
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18-12-2019, 02:35 PM
#3100
Member
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Not quite right - this government takes with both hands and returns so little. Increased minimum wage means not a cost to or benefit of the government, it just means that the cost of labour is going up big time for companies.
New Zealand is already now (after Australia and Luxembourg) the country with the third highest minimum wage world wide. Labour's changes will make our companies still more in-competitive. Lets kill the cow we all are milking - shall we? Typical Labour.
https://ceoworld.biz/2019/01/03/coun...he-world-2019/
Oops, yes a bit of a typo regarding one hand/two hands, lol
With the minimum wage OMG, look at how far it goes due to the high cost of living here, what a joke this Government has turned us into
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