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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonboyz View Post
    Can NZF withdraw/cancel the coalition agreement at some stage, or are they bound to uphold it until the next election?
    Anything can happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Yes and yes.
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    If neo-liberalism is loosely defined as just a bunch of people doing things in their own self interest .....then neo-liberalism hasn’t been finally put to rest by this new government
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
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    If neo-liberalism is loosely defined as just a bunch of people doing things in their own self interest .....then neo-liberalism hasn’t been finally put to rest by this new government
    Surely you're not suggesting Winston First would be acting in his own interest!

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    Climsae change was such a priority under National that the deputy prime minister held that portfolio. I wonder if winston will get it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Climsae change was such a priority under National that the deputy prime minister held that portfolio. I wonder if winston will get it ?
    Imagine the reaction from the Kermits if they don't get that one

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    It is quite incredible that Jacinda has agreed with NZF on this big issue for the Greens, without telling them. Gareth Hughes has put a lot of work into this and pushed it hard. He was also passed over for a "Ministerial" portfolio. I'm sure he's not a happy chap right now, before this motley crew even takes office !!

    I did note with interest before the election that Talley's were one of the largest corporate donors to NZF but I'm sure that has nothing to do with this announcement !!!!! To be fair, they always donate some money to most of the bigger parties. And surely this new Leftie Government does not start by scrapping our largest Ocean Sanctuary as a price for political donations. Imagine if this had been National, eh EZ et al ?

    But it looks like Jacinda was more into saying "Yes Sir" to Winston's demands than negotiating with him. Inexperience on her behalf ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Imagine the reaction from the Kermits if they don't get that one
    greens get jobs outside of cabinet - that is the unimportant " throw them a bone " portfolios

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    greens get jobs outside of cabinet - that is the unimportant " throw them a bone " portfolios
    That's only until the Greens realise that they are as impotent in ministerial posts out of cabinet as they have been out of government for decades, and still have no mojo to make stuff-all difference either way.

    It's a sad outcome for the Greens, being the lapdog of Labour and on the outside with NZ First. The first important decision that comes up in Cabinet, the Greens will be in the unenviable position of towing the line as a confidence and supply 'partner', despite their misgivings, or playing hard ball and risk be ostracised to political obscurity.

    I predict it will happen fairly quickly, or maybe it's already happening with the Kermandecs.

    The Greens are doomed, and so with it the unholy coalition with Labour and NZ First, in terms of pushing through legislation. Any sign of consensus will in fact be a simmering pile of festering sores that will in time rend the unlikely coalition, let alone the notion of 'partners'.

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    Been really good weather since Jacinda took over ....jeez the garden needs some water
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