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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    What’s wrong with Whaleoil?
    Where would one start - read Dirty Politics old fella?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim23 View Post
    Where would one start - read Dirty Politics old fella?
    Front up or shut up, grasshopper. When you can put $10k together, you can come out of your mummy’s bosom & join the men’s league.
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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12369285

    All that make up and Cindy still came out second best.

    All style and no substance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Front up or shut up, grasshopper. When you can put $10k together, you can come out of your mummy’s bosom & join the men’s league.
    I see you are good at dishing out vicious insults but when we respond with a mild rebuke you get all surly, give it up, you're embarrassing yourself.

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    Lots of comments here about the $4B mistake from Goldsmith but no comment about the $140B mistake from Robinson. Just like most of the media, totally unbiased ������

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Lots of comments here about the $4B mistake from Goldsmith but no comment about the $140B mistake from Robinson. Just like most of the media, totally unbiased ������
    I was disappointed in Collins about a Plan B last night. It should have been a marked difference from the idiotic lack of a plan we have now. Who in their right minds borrows a multigenerational sum of money without surety of its effectiveness and a surefire way out of a never ending loop of lockdowns? Madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Lots of comments here about the $4B mistake from Goldsmith but no comment about the $140B mistake from Robinson. Just like most of the media, totally unbiased ������

    Ahhh.....ones an obvious typo, and ones a $4 Billion miscalculation using the wrong set of figures. Satisfied now ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    I was disappointed in Collins about a Plan B last night. It should have been a marked difference from the idiotic lack of a plan we have now. Who in their right minds borrows a multigenerational sum of money without surety of its effectiveness and a surefire way out of a never ending loop of lockdowns? Madness.
    One does this when the goal is to ensuring no political fall out of having a overwhelmed health system and resulting human consequence. The debt is never repaid in a election cycle. So it meets political and health goals.

    Judith lost me with her pathetic retro. approach on the wage subsidy...has she forgotten where her support is ?
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    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...n-its-promises

    So much for Cindy's promise to make homes affordable :

    "So has their foreign buyers ban, the brightline extension and other measures worked for affordability?

    No, according to economist Shamubeel Eaqub.

    "We haven't achieved more affordable housing.

    "KiwiBuild failed, the ban on foreign buyers and the brightline test were put in place but they weren't very effective."

    All style and no substance - that's Cindy. Maybe wearing the hijab when she next talks about home affordability may help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...n-its-promises

    So much for Cindy's promise to make homes affordable :

    "So has their foreign buyers ban, the brightline extension and other measures worked for affordability?

    No, according to economist Shamubeel Eaqub.

    "We haven't achieved more affordable housing.

    "KiwiBuild failed, the ban on foreign buyers and the brightline test were put in place but they weren't very effective."

    All style and no substance - that's Cindy. Maybe wearing the hijab when she next talks about home affordability may help?
    But wait, there's more.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12369372

    Housing Crisis has become Housing Chaos under Cindy.

    "When Labour was wanting to be elected and they called it a crisis, we called it a crisis, but it has gone beyond the crisis."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    But wait, there's more.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12369372

    Housing Crisis has become Housing Chaos under Cindy.

    "When Labour was wanting to be elected and they called it a crisis, we called it a crisis, but it has gone beyond the crisis."
    A 19 year old solo parent with a 2 year old, on benefit. can't find a rental. More likely can't find one that will make her an offer because rental shortage, increased costs / compliance / risk. Quite possible there is some correlation there because there are thousands of rentals advertised.

    How many of those factors have been caused by this government?

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    Well that is was Arden mentioned in debate comments the other night..so what have you done about it then. Lets look at CDHB, now today bailed out after their executive have basically left being placed in an untenable position..suspect the MOH, Treasury and Govt. wanted to get ride of experienced people that had community support. Love to know why Auckland per head of population is better funding than Christchurch....

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    Good to see Labour now also promising to repeal the RMA & start again. Cost of building in this country is out of control.
    Recently heard of someone being given a quote of $90,000 to replace the roof on their house. How could it possibly cost that much to replace a roof for goodness sake.

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    Another promise? Surely, the Coalition govt had some sort of commission of inquiry/ investigative committee thingy to recommend on this subject. Wasn't three years long enough to get some action on this matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Good to see Labour now also promising to repeal the RMA & start again. Cost of building in this country is out of control.
    Recently heard of someone being given a quote of $90,000 to replace the roof on their house. How could it possibly cost that much to replace a roof for goodness sake.
    Could be 20+k of scaffolding for a start. That's H&S regulations not RMA. Generally nothing to do with the RMA in replacing a roof unless you're actually redesigning the house as you do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Good to see Labour now also promising to repeal the RMA & start again. Cost of building in this country is out of control.
    Recently heard of someone being given a quote of $90,000 to replace the roof on their house. How could it possibly cost that much to replace a roof for goodness sake.
    Try this - Developer required to divert a ROW driveway to a side road (to subdivide one property into 3) because the Auckland Council decided that they did not want ‘more’ traffic onto busy road. Fair enough.

    Pine tree stood in the way of the diversion so Council Parks & Recreation objected as tree is ‘feature’ of area!

    Parks & Recreation would not talk directly with Resource Dept except via Planning process.

    So reports have to be paid for by developer - traffic management report and arborist report before consent was given.

    Cost?

    3 months delay and $120,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raz View Post
    Well that is was Arden mentioned in debate comments the other night..so what have you done about it then. Lets look at CDHB, now today bailed out after their executive have basically left being placed in an untenable position..suspect the MOH, Treasury and Govt. wanted to get ride of experienced people that had community support. Love to know why Auckland per head of population is better funding than Christchurch....
    It's not just the Canterbury DHB either, Raz. Whoever came up with the idea of loading the DHB's with debt which they have to service should admit the folly of the idea, write off all DHB's debt and fund future operations adequately.

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    Subdivision and non compliant activities are extraordinarily expensive, and with generally no extra benefit obtained from all the hoop jumping.

    A friend as part of a 1 section subdivision had the misfortune to be forming an entrance onto a piece of SH12 here in Northland. 34k later it is done. I can see at best 5k value in the work done. Approx 5k in traffic management costs alone for a quiet piece of road.

    All thanks to Geoff Palmer who hundreds of consultants and planners should be required to bow down every Monday morning in gratitude for the monumental cockup he inflicted upon us all and ensured billions of dollars spent on non-productive Environment Court and Council Hearings. All hail Sir Geoff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Could be 20+k of scaffolding for a start. That's H&S regulations not RMA. Generally nothing to do with the RMA in replacing a roof unless you're actually redesigning the house as you do it.

    Yes but I think if you make any slight change to the roof line OR change the type of roofing it involves the RMA. The H&S regulations are out of control too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Try this - Developer required to divert a ROW driveway to a side road (to subdivide one property into 3) because the Auckland Council decided that they did not want ‘more’ traffic onto busy road. Fair enough.

    Pine tree stood in the way of the diversion so Council Parks & Recreation objected as tree is ‘feature’ of area!

    Parks & Recreation would not talk directly with Resource Dept except via Planning process.

    So reports have to be paid for by developer - traffic management report and arborist report before consent was given.

    Cost?

    3 months delay and $120,000.

    Outrageous, they make it so difficult to get anything done.

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