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    Whats the Callahans doing chucking $315,000 at a crypto startup?

    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/11/m...s/#more-419785

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    You'll find Gorliz at your local protest along with the other unemploed and professional hand wringers. Chloe's out the back still practising her "earnest" look. The others can be found around New Zealand counting all the turtles they have saved with their single use plastic bag ban campaign.
    Sadly the single use plastic bag ban in NZ doesn't help the ocean one bit :-(
    It turns out that about 90 percent of all the plastic that reaches the world's oceans gets flushed through just 10 rivers: The Yangtze, the Indus, Yellow River, Hai River, the Nile, the Ganges, Pearl River, Amur River, the Niger, and the Mekong (in that order).

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Sadly the single use plastic bag ban in NZ doesn't help the ocean one bit :-(
    It turns out that about 90 percent of all the plastic that reaches the world's oceans gets flushed through just 10 rivers: The Yangtze, the Indus, Yellow River, Hai River, the Nile, the Ganges, Pearl River, Amur River, the Niger, and the Mekong (in that order).
    The other bit of information Labour and Greens miss is that 52% of the plastic in the worlds oceans is fishing nets rope and line and 48% is hard plastic (fishing crates and the like along with plastic bottle and caps) Straws and plastic bags make no statistically relevant contribution at all.

    Our "feel good" is what you get when you have a flake of a PM who is influenced by school kids who are obviously being taught rubbish.

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    That justifies your feeling good about doing nothing ?.What a cop out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    The other bit of information Labour and Greens miss is that 52% of the plastic in the worlds oceans is fishing nets rope and line and 48% is hard plastic (fishing crates and the like along with plastic bottle and caps) Straws and plastic bags make no statistically relevant contribution at all.

    Our "feel good" is what you get when you have a flake of a PM who is influenced by school kids who are obviously being taught rubbish.
    Wander down the beach and look at all the rubbish that has drifted across from all those rivers in the northern hemisphere eh.
    And all those single use plastic bags they breakdown in landfills don't they?
    I suppose you are worried like D. Seymore that you will die from an infection caught from a reusable bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westerly View Post
    Wander down the beach and look at all the rubbish that has drifted across from all those rivers in the northern hemisphere eh.
    And all those single use plastic bags they breakdown in landfills don't they?
    I suppose you are worried like D. Seymore that you will die from an infection caught from a reusable bag.

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    do we really want this: Seymour was “completely opposed” to the plastic bag ban, citing a US research paper from 2012 which showed a switch to reusable bags killed around five people a year in San Francisco.

    Supermarket bags. Again follow the stories,
    1. plastic bags are killing turtles so ban them.
    2. Supermarkets stop giving away plastic bags (ie save themselves money) but will happily sell you a plastic bag (ie make more money as they cost more)
    3. Reusable bags are now killing humans (or are more likely to).
    4. Another story yesterday about how sales of plastic rubbish bags at supermarkets are up x% and supermarkets are having trouble keeping up with stock.
    5. Plastic straws sales are down and paper straw sales are up
    6. We need to chop down more trees to make paper items when trees are needed to stop so called climate change.

    This world is going crazy. What happened to common sense!

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    Supermarkets get rid of plastic bags because they figured out the alternatives are more profitable. Have to admit that their timing is impeccable leveraging the hysteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    do we really want this: Seymour was “completely opposed” to the plastic bag ban, citing a US research paper from 2012 which showed a switch to reusable bags killed around five people a year in San Francisco.

    This world is going crazy. What happened to common sense!
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/natio...ted-by-seymour

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    Quote Originally Posted by westerly View Post
    Wander down the beach and look at all the rubbish that has drifted across from all those rivers in the northern hemisphere eh.
    I suspect the irony of your post will escape you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    That justifies your feeling good about doing nothing ?.What a cop out.
    I'm greener than your average cabbage. But what I lack in virtue I make up for in realism

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