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18-10-2018, 02:21 PM
#1831
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Ah yes - and given that SME's are the heartblood of our economy - there is clearly no need to properly represent them, isn't it?
Best our gummit can do?
That's the bit that has me concerned. Looks like they are catering to large corporates and bugger the biggest substantial part of the economy. All names but no substance.
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18-10-2018, 02:32 PM
#1832
Talk about a half empty glass missing mouth and splashing on feetI will show you what you are blind to
Christopher Luxton AIR
Peter Beck Rocket Lab
Jaqui coombes Bunnings
Barbara chapman professional director
Anna Cuzon Xero
Andrew Grant Mckinsey & co
Bailey Mckay Pango
David McClean Westpac
Joc O'donnell HW Richardson
Rachel Taulelei Kono
Fraser Whineray Mercury
"To do that we need to work closely with business leaders, share ideas and consider solutions to overcoming barriers together."
A mix of six women and seven men with small to large business experience, from across New Zealand, were selected to provide advice,
The Government also recently established a 13-member Small Business Council which reports to Minister of Small Business Stuart Nash."
Heavy hitters on PM's council
The govt has been listening, thats good.
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18-10-2018, 02:39 PM
#1833
Originally Posted by Joshuatree
Another bullsh1t advisory group.
Adern and co have no interest at all in advice from business. Take for example the proposed industrial relations changes. Virtually every business (large and small) said keep the 90 day trial provisions and giving Unions great right to property access (greater even than Police) was wrong. The draft bill went through Select COmmittee and virtually no change whatsoever - none!.
And then you have Labours wage inflation without a tie to productivity. Living Wage and Increased minimum wages will do nothing but shift the burden of Working For Families from taxpayer to business - the SME's eventually giving up because they cant turn a profit.
And what about those in poverdy - wouldn't you let them try to shop in the cheapest market? Oh no says Labour. We are going to tax your overseas purchases.
Last edited by minimoke; 18-10-2018 at 03:38 PM.
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18-10-2018, 02:51 PM
#1834
Originally Posted by Joshuatree
Talk about a half empty glass missing mouth and splashing on feet I will show you what you are blind to
Christopher Luxton AIR
Peter Beck Rocket Lab
Jaqui coombes Bunnings
Barbara chapman professional director
Anna Cuzon Xero
Andrew Grant Mckinsey & co
Bailey Mckay Pango
David McClean Westpac
Joc O'donnell HW Richardson
Rachel Taulelei Kono
Fraser Whineray Mercury
[FONT="]"To do that we need to work closely with business leaders, share ideas and consider solutions to overcoming barriers together."[/FONT]
[FONT="]A mix of six women and seven men with small to large business experience, from across New Zealand, were selected to provide advice,
The Government also recently established a 13-member Small Business Council which reports to Minister of Small Business Stuart Nash."
Heavy hitters on PM's council
The govt has been listening, thats good.[/FONT]
I'm surprised there are 13 in the group. That makes it impossible to get exact gender balance - doesn't fit normal Labour waffle.
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18-10-2018, 03:29 PM
#1835
Originally Posted by blackcap
That's the bit that has me concerned. Looks like they are catering to large corporates and bugger the biggest substantial part of the economy. All names but no substance.
Should it be assumed that the representatives from large companies are so self centred that they would not take into account their vast networks of supply, distribution, sub-contract and customers that are smaller businesses and SME's?
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18-10-2018, 03:48 PM
#1836
Originally Posted by Baa_Baa
Should it be assumed that the representatives from large companies are so self centred that they would not take into account their vast networks of supply, distribution, sub-contract and customers that are smaller businesses and SME's?
Yeah pretty much assuming they are self-centered. But even if not, large corporates and SME's operate totally differently. Vastly different markets and vastly different skill sets required. I'm not saying the names are necessarily bad or inept, just wish there was a more diverse representation of the NZ business scene.
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18-10-2018, 03:59 PM
#1837
They've covered things well. But hey you could do it better ay lol.
"The Government also recently established a 13-member Small Business Council which reports to Minister of Small Business Stuart Nash."
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18-10-2018, 04:08 PM
#1838
Originally Posted by Joshuatree
They've covered things well. But hey you could do it better ay lol.
"The Government also recently established a 13-member Small Business Council which reports to Minister of Small Business Stuart Nash."
JT - it just confirms Labour sat on their arsis for 9 years doing nothing except pulling in parliamentary pay; entered Government clueless and consequently had set up all these advisory policy groups. Adern says ""I will also be asking the council to gather advice from their peers in the domestic and international business community on some of the most important issues facing New Zealand including how we best grow and share our prosperity, support regional development, and transition to a clean, green New Zealand," . So she doesnt know how to grow and share prosperity (taxing people who do for the benefit of those who dont) will be their plan). I thought Shane Jones had been given a pot load of loot for regional development
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18-10-2018, 04:22 PM
#1839
Originally Posted by Joshuatree
They've covered things well. But hey you could do it better ay lol.
"The Government also recently established a 13-member Small Business Council which reports to Minister of Small Business Stuart Nash."
Here is the members of that committee:
Terry Baucher: Director of Baucher Consulting Ltd
· Rachel Brown: CEO/Founder of Sustainable Business Network
· Anthony Buick-Constable: Deputy Chief Executive and General Counsel of NZ Bankers Association
· Nicole Buisson: Small Business Director, Xero
· Jim Gordon: Director of Jim Gordon Tax Ltd
· Andy Hamilton: CEO The Icehouse Ltd, Director of FaceMe Limited
· Jerry He: Chairman of Asia Pacific MSMEs Trade Coalition
· Allison Lawton: Chief Executive of Rotorua Chamber of Commerce
· Tenby Powell: Director of Hunter Powell Investment Partners
· Alison Brewer Shearer: General Manager, Fonterra Shareholders' Council
· Dr Deborah Shepherd: Senior Lecturer - University of Auckland Business School, Facilitator at the Icehouse
· Tania Siladi: Co-Owner/Director of Dragonfly Hospitality Group Limited, Co-Owner/Director of Asian Food Republic
· Leeann Watson: Chief Executive of Canterbury Employer’s Chamber of Commerce
Powell is chairman and Shepherd deputy chairman.
Slightly better although how many in that group have actually developed a small business, or grown a small high growth start up, or shown leadership in an area or actually in the VC space, perhaps developed from small a larger sustainable business, then gone on an advise or take private equity positions as investor/mentor...
There is plenty of people out there in this space...
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18-10-2018, 04:43 PM
#1840
Originally Posted by Raz
Here is the members of that committee:
Terry Baucher: Director of Baucher Consulting Ltd
· Rachel Brown: CEO/Founder of Sustainable Business Network
· Anthony Buick-Constable: Deputy Chief Executive and General Counsel of NZ Bankers Association
· Nicole Buisson: Small Business Director, Xero
· Jim Gordon: Director of Jim Gordon Tax Ltd
· Andy Hamilton: CEO The Icehouse Ltd, Director of FaceMe Limited
· Jerry He: Chairman of Asia Pacific MSMEs Trade Coalition
· Allison Lawton: Chief Executive of Rotorua Chamber of Commerce
· Tenby Powell: Director of Hunter Powell Investment Partners
· Alison Brewer Shearer: General Manager, Fonterra Shareholders' Council
· Dr Deborah Shepherd: Senior Lecturer - University of Auckland Business School, Facilitator at the Icehouse
· Tania Siladi: Co-Owner/Director of Dragonfly Hospitality Group Limited, Co-Owner/Director of Asian Food Republic
· Leeann Watson: Chief Executive of Canterbury Employer’s Chamber of Commerce
Powell is chairman and Shepherd deputy chairman.
Slightly better although how many in that group have actually developed a small business, or grown a small high growth start up, or shown leadership in an area or actually in the VC space, perhaps developed from small a larger sustainable business, then gone on an advise or take private equity positions as investor/mentor...
There is plenty of people out there in this space...
LOL - looks like Fonterror is everywhere - what exactly is a Fonterror GM (and worse - from the shareholders council - this must be the fund fleezing NZ) doing in a SME advisory committee?
Only thing they can do is screw SME (e.g. by forcing them to accept terrible condiitons of payment or go bust), fleezing shareholdes and making losses, and this are the people Labour chooses to represent SME?
I knew that Labour is clueless, but didn't realise it is that bad. JT - just tell us more ;p;
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